Re: integrate autobrackets in jEdit

hi Bob,

Since the original source is in bzr, I guess you need to use git-remote-bzr
to pull the origin into your local git clone.

When you're done, we want to push it up to a git sf.net repository, so we
can make the 'offiical' clone there. And once it's there, people like me
and Dale might even hack around with it too.

Unfortunately, there was a lot of info in our wiki which was just 'lost',
when the wiki was taken away from us by sf.net. The
http://jedit.org/index.php?page=devel page is getting a little out of date
but mostly it is still correct.

Personally, I use Eclipse to develop plugins in jEdit, because of the
debugger and completion. I create a project for jEdit and another for each
plugin I want to work on, or for each dependent plugin.
That way I can easily navigate to the definition of anything with
ctrl+click.


On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 7:29 AM, sigzero <[email protected]> wrote:

> Is there someplace that gives the "This is what you need to develop
> plugins"? Do people just use jEdit for the whole cycle or an IDE etc?
>
> Bob
>
> On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Alan Ezust <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks sigzero, for making a good feature request, and posting it to the
>> correct tracker. You even assigned it to the right person.
>> Too bad he's no longer working on jEdit, so we need another volunteer.
>> I'll help someone new get started if he/she needs help.
>>
>> I wish other complainers understood how to do that kind of thing, because
>> that's how you make things better in jEdit.
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 6:57 AM, sigzero <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I never said anyone called someone "lame". Maybe that was on a different
>>> post that I missed.
>>>
>>> Any "completion" stuff would go into the plugin and the FirstMate plugin
>>> already has that.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bob
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 1:20 AM, Kedar Pawar <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> @sigzero, if you can do it so politely sir, then why don't you raise
>>>> the feature request from my side. Anyways, i did not call anybody "lame" so
>>>> I don't blame myself.
>>>>
>>>> And then there is no support for completion of single and double quotes
>>>> also in jEdit - so that raises another question.
>>>>
>>>> And if its "All or notthing" then this can be configured in the optiosn
>>>> pane also.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 26 December 2017 at 21:07, sigzero <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone know if  "Ollie Rutherfurd" is still around? The copyright
>>>>> in the FirstMate plugin is 2006. Thought I would ask him if he still
>>>>> supported it and if not politely ask if I could fork it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 2:36 PM, Michael Maxwell <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Agreed, having everything or nothing autopair would be a big
>>>>>> problem.  Good reason NOT to include this functionality in the base jEdit
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my Windows 10 phone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From: *sigzero <[email protected]>
>>>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 26, 2017 11:30 AM
>>>>>> *To: *Michael Maxwell <[email protected]>
>>>>>> *Cc: *Kedar Pawar <[email protected]>; Steve Jakob
>>>>>> <[email protected]>; jedit-users
>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [ jEdit-users ] integrate autobrackets in jEdit
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, it is an "all or nothing" with completions in the plugin. It
>>>>>> would be nice (but beyond me) to have an options pain with something like
>>>>>> (which is what you suggested):
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- Autopairing ---
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [X]  '
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [X] "
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [X] [
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [X] {
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- Custom ---
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [   ]    [textbox for custom paring]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then you could pair what you wanted to pair.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 1:18 PM, Michael Maxwell <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not an answer to your question, but a different question. Does the
>>>>>> plugin allow choosing which pairs to auto complete? If you’re not
>>>>>> programming xml or html, it would be inconvenient to have it add a greater
>>>>>> than every time you type a less than… another option would be a check list
>>>>>> of such pairs, to include paired quotes, paired chevrons etc
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From: *sigzero <[email protected]>
>>>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 26, 2017 9:22 AM
>>>>>> *To: *Kedar Pawar <[email protected]>
>>>>>> *Cc: *Steve Jakob <[email protected]>; jedit-users
>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [ jEdit-users ] integrate autobrackets in jEdit
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looking at the source for the FirstMate plugin, it looks rather
>>>>>> trivial to an autocomplete for "<>". How does one go about "updating a
>>>>>> plugin"? That would be my next question.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That brings me to another. Would it benefit the jEdit community to
>>>>>> move all the plugins to github to facilitate updates like this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Kedar Pawar <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thats fine. It was nice to meet the community though. Thanks for
>>>>>> replies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 26 Dec 2017 20:28, "sigzero" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am wondering how hard it would be to just update the plugin to
>>>>>> include the functionality.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't agree with it being in the core as that's not the jEdit
>>>>>> manifesto.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 7:05 AM, Kedar Pawar <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >> that You can't do many things without any plugin installed
>>>>>>
>>>>>> do I really need a plugin for a feature that should be available in
>>>>>> the editor itself??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If jEdit supports syntax highlighting, multiple character sets and
>>>>>> indentation, then this is not an uncommon feature to have.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually it will be nice to see this feature included in the future
>>>>>> versions of jEdit. I hope the developers come to agree with that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 25 December 2017 at 23:42, Steve Jakob <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is one of the main things that I appreciate about jEdit. A good
>>>>>> basic editor that’s VERY flexible. I also appreciate the work that all of
>>>>>> the maintainers and plugin authors have contributed. I feel fortunate that
>>>>>> I had the opportunity to meet Slava years ago, say my thanks in person and
>>>>>> share a pitcher of beer.
>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Merry Christmas folks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve Jakob
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > On Dec 25, 2017, at 1:40 PM, Robert Schwenn <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >>  ... Is there any reason that such simple feature is not included
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Yes, there is a reason ;-). One of jEdit's ideas is to provide a
>>>>>> sophisticated core, but most user features by plugins. You may have noticed
>>>>>> that You can't do many things without any plugin installed. jEdit simply
>>>>>> isn't the application for people who want a full-featured editor out of the
>>>>>> box. It's for people who like to compose their "own" editor.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Merry Christmas to all.
>>>>>> > Robert
>>>>>>
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