Re: integrate autobrackets in jEdit

I would not want to mess anything up.  :)

Bob

On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 11:03 AM, Alan Ezust <[email protected]> wrote:

> Oh good eye! I missed that.
> I guess there is git-svn and svn-all-fast-export you can use to convert it
> to git and maintain the history. I don't want to lose it again like what
> happened when kpouer brought things into subversion, so if you decide to
> move over to git, I won't object as long as you keep the history.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 7:51 AM, sigzero <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> It's in the svn repo:  https://sourceforge.net/p/jedi
>> t/svn/HEAD/tree/plugins/FirstMate/
>>
>> I'll take a look. Might be a good side project.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 10:36 AM, Alan Ezust <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> hi Bob,
>>>
>>> Since the original source is in bzr, I guess you need to use
>>> git-remote-bzr to pull the origin into your local git clone.
>>>
>>> When you're done, we want to push it up to a git sf.net repository, so
>>> we can make the 'offiical' clone there. And once it's there, people like me
>>> and Dale might even hack around with it too.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, there was a lot of info in our wiki which was just
>>> 'lost', when the wiki was taken away from us by sf.net. The
>>> http://jedit.org/index.php?page=devel page is getting a little out of
>>> date but mostly it is still correct.
>>>
>>> Personally, I use Eclipse to develop plugins in jEdit, because of the
>>> debugger and completion. I create a project for jEdit and another for each
>>> plugin I want to work on, or for each dependent plugin.
>>> That way I can easily navigate to the definition of anything with
>>> ctrl+click.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 7:29 AM, sigzero <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is there someplace that gives the "This is what you need to develop
>>>> plugins"? Do people just use jEdit for the whole cycle or an IDE etc?
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Alan Ezust <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks sigzero, for making a good feature request, and posting it to
>>>>> the correct tracker. You even assigned it to the right person.
>>>>> Too bad he's no longer working on jEdit, so we need another volunteer.
>>>>> I'll help someone new get started if he/she needs help.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wish other complainers understood how to do that kind of thing,
>>>>> because that's how you make things better in jEdit.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 6:57 AM, sigzero <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I never said anyone called someone "lame". Maybe that was on a
>>>>>> different post that I missed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any "completion" stuff would go into the plugin and the FirstMate
>>>>>> plugin already has that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 1:20 AM, Kedar Pawar <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> @sigzero, if you can do it so politely sir, then why don't you raise
>>>>>>> the feature request from my side. Anyways, i did not call anybody "lame" so
>>>>>>> I don't blame myself.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And then there is no support for completion of single and double
>>>>>>> quotes also in jEdit - so that raises another question.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And if its "All or notthing" then this can be configured in the
>>>>>>> optiosn pane also.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 26 December 2017 at 21:07, sigzero <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Does anyone know if  "Ollie Rutherfurd" is still around? The
>>>>>>>> copyright in the FirstMate plugin is 2006. Thought I would ask him if he
>>>>>>>> still supported it and if not politely ask if I could fork it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 2:36 PM, Michael Maxwell <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Agreed, having everything or nothing autopair would be a big
>>>>>>>>> problem.  Good reason NOT to include this functionality in the base jEdit
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Windows 10 phone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *From: *sigzero <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 26, 2017 11:30 AM
>>>>>>>>> *To: *Michael Maxwell <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> *Cc: *Kedar Pawar <[email protected]>; Steve Jakob
>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>; jedit-users
>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [ jEdit-users ] integrate autobrackets in jEdit
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No, it is an "all or nothing" with completions in the plugin. It
>>>>>>>>> would be nice (but beyond me) to have an options pain with something like
>>>>>>>>> (which is what you suggested):
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --- Autopairing ---
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [X]  '
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [X] "
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [X] [
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [X] {
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --- Custom ---
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [   ]    [textbox for custom paring]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Then you could pair what you wanted to pair.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 1:18 PM, Michael Maxwell <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not an answer to your question, but a different question. Does the
>>>>>>>>> plugin allow choosing which pairs to auto complete? If you’re not
>>>>>>>>> programming xml or html, it would be inconvenient to have it add a greater
>>>>>>>>> than every time you type a less than… another option would be a check list
>>>>>>>>> of such pairs, to include paired quotes, paired chevrons etc
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *From: *sigzero <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 26, 2017 9:22 AM
>>>>>>>>> *To: *Kedar Pawar <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> *Cc: *Steve Jakob <[email protected]>; jedit-users
>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [ jEdit-users ] integrate autobrackets in jEdit
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Looking at the source for the FirstMate plugin, it looks rather
>>>>>>>>> trivial to an autocomplete for "<>". How does one go about "updating a
>>>>>>>>> plugin"? That would be my next question.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That brings me to another. Would it benefit the jEdit community to
>>>>>>>>> move all the plugins to github to facilitate updates like this?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Kedar Pawar <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thats fine. It was nice to meet the community though. Thanks for
>>>>>>>>> replies.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 26 Dec 2017 20:28, "sigzero" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am wondering how hard it would be to just update the plugin to
>>>>>>>>> include the functionality.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't agree with it being in the core as that's not the jEdit
>>>>>>>>> manifesto.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 7:05 AM, Kedar Pawar <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >> that You can't do many things without any plugin installed
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> do I really need a plugin for a feature that should be available
>>>>>>>>> in the editor itself??
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If jEdit supports syntax highlighting, multiple character sets and
>>>>>>>>> indentation, then this is not an uncommon feature to have.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Actually it will be nice to see this feature included in the
>>>>>>>>> future versions of jEdit. I hope the developers come to agree with that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 25 December 2017 at 23:42, Steve Jakob <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is one of the main things that I appreciate about jEdit. A
>>>>>>>>> good basic editor that’s VERY flexible. I also appreciate the work that all
>>>>>>>>> of the maintainers and plugin authors have contributed. I feel fortunate
>>>>>>>>> that I had the opportunity to meet Slava years ago, say my thanks in person
>>>>>>>>> and share a pitcher of beer.
>>>>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Merry Christmas folks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Steve Jakob
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > On Dec 25, 2017, at 1:40 PM, Robert Schwenn <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >>  ... Is there any reason that such simple feature is not
>>>>>>>>> included ...
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Yes, there is a reason ;-). One of jEdit's ideas is to provide a
>>>>>>>>> sophisticated core, but most user features by plugins. You may have noticed
>>>>>>>>> that You can't do many things without any plugin installed. jEdit simply
>>>>>>>>> isn't the application for people who want a full-featured editor out of the
>>>>>>>>> box. It's for people who like to compose their "own" editor.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Merry Christmas to all.
>>>>>>>>> > Robert
>>>>>>>>>
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