Re: Created a GitHub repository that gives jEdit live

I had considered just dismissing this, but then I thought that you might be just some inexperienced kid who’s just getting into software development so I’ve decided to explain why I feel that your proposal is unreasonable and a little insulting to those who maintain and support jEdit.

First, you have no history with this project and have made no contributions that I’m aware of, but you come on this list and essentially tell the maintainers that the project is on the wrong hosting service, had a bad license and the code quality is poor. This is disrepectful.

This is the second time that you’ve been pushing for a move to github but have given no good reason for such a move other than because it’s what YOU want. Dale had taken the time to provide you with some of the previous discussions on that topic but you seem to have ignored them. This is also disrepectul.

You stated in your proposal that “Projects under the GPL are hated by many programmers” but the jEdit maintainers are programmers and they’ve CHOSEN to work on an application with a GPL license. Again, your statement is disrespectul of them.

I get the impression that you don’t know much about the GPL or software licensing in general. If you did you would understand that the license change that you want is nearly impossible at this point. A change in license would require permission from the code authors, many of whom haven’t been associated with the project in years. This includes the original author, Slava Pestov.

Finally, I feel that you’ve greatly underestimated the time and effort that would be required to make the changes that you’ve proposed. Changing hosting services is not as simple as copying a bunch of files. Removing “old code” (for example, changing the graphics toolkit from Swing to JavaFX) is nowhere near as simple as it sounds.

Maybe you’re an amazing programmer. Maybe you have some excellent ideas. Maybe you have what it takes to create a modern replacement for jEdit, but I don’t know because you’re new here and it seems as if all you’ve done since you arrived on this list is to make demands. I have a great deal of respect for the folks who maintain jEdit and I’m a little protective of them. For me, jEdit is an indispensable part of my software toolkit that I use almost every day. If you want to be taken seriously as a developer then I would suggest starting out by making smaller contributions to the jEdit codebase rather than advocating for large, disruptive changes.

To close, I stand by my statement from my previous email. If you want a programmer’s editor that doesn’t have “old code” and that’s hosted on github with a more permissive license then you’re probably going to have to write it yourself. If you want an excellent programmer’s editor that’s very flexible and has proven itself over many years, then jEdit is a good choice.

Hate me if you must, but I’m just being honest.

Steve Jakob

> On Apr 6, 2019, at 3:05 AM, ナンダカフラリ <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> (This sentence is translated from Japanese to English using Google Translate)
> 
> Hello.
> 
> I tried to create a repository that aims to create a successor to jEdit.
> 
> https://github.com/nandaka-furari/jEditFollower <https://github.com/nandaka-furari/jEditFollower>
> 
> I just rewritten the DTD to RelaxNG so that nobody ever needs to type in a capital letter.
> And also a little Java code.
> It is still about this level, but I think that it can also be incorporated into the jEdit project and used eventually.
> 
> And Steve Jakob.
> I will not forgive you.
> I have you disappear from this world by my dark summons.
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