Re: Possible to install jEdit on a new Mac?

Vampire <[email protected]> Fri, 17 Nov 2023 04:12:44 +0100
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Hi Gregory,

I was about to release 5.7.0 and there also updated the macOS app bundler.
Maybe you could quickly try https://www.swisstransfer.com/d/b8bcf63b-b3d3-403c-a0ea-fd3adb6d83bd ?
Actually, I don't think it changes much in what Java is discovered, from what I have seen in the changes, but who knows.

If you are able to read C code, you could maybe see from https://github.com/evolvedbinary/appbundler/blob/main/appbundler/native/main.m where Java runtimes are searched for.
From a very cursory look, I'd say it first searches for `/Library/Internet Plug-Ins/JavaAppletPlugin.plugin/Contents/Home/bin/java`
and then uses `/usr/libexec/java_home` to find a matching JVM.

If neither brings a result, it fails.

Besides that Oracle Java is anyway questionable to be used since they changed their licensing.
So maybe you also try with Temurin as Bobb suggested.

Cheers
Björn

Am 07.11.2023 18:07, schrieb Gregory Garretson:
> Hi Jack,
>
> Thanks, but I'm afraid it doesn't seem to. I've installed both the JRE and the JDK, but jEdit still tells me to install Java 11 or later, even though I get this:
>
> java --version
>
> java 21.0.1 2023-10-17 LTS
>
> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 21.0.1+12-LTS-29)
>
> Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 21.0.1+12-LTS-29, mixed mode, sharing)
>
>
> Any more thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
> Gregory
>
>
>> On Nov 7, 2023, at 4:56 PM, Jack W. <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> Does this help? https://docs.oracle.com/en/java/javase/11/install/installation-jdk-macos.html
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>> On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 9:35 AM Gregory Garretson <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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>>     Now I have a MacBook with an M3 Apple Silicon processor.
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>>     My problem is that while jEdit 5.6 successfully installs on the machine, it doesn't detect Java. It looks for Java 11,
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>> -- 
>> Jack Woehr               # If it doesn't work in Firefox,
>> Box 82, Beulah CO 81023  # it's broken.
>> http://www.softwoehr.com <http://www.softwoehr.com/> # Just Say No to Chrome.
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    <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">Hi Gregory,</div>
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    <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">I was about to release 5.7.0
      and there also updated the macOS app bundler.</div>
    <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">Maybe you could quickly try&nbsp;<a
href="https://www.swisstransfer.com/d/b8bcf63b-b3d3-403c-a0ea-fd3adb6d83bd">https://www.swisstransfer.com/d/b8bcf63b-b3d3-403c-a0ea-fd3adb6d83bd</a>
      ?<br>
      Actually, I don't think&nbsp;it changes much in what Java is
      discovered, from what I have seen in the changes, but who knows.</div>
    <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><br>
    </div>
    <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">If you are able to read C
      code, you could maybe see from&nbsp;<a
href="https://github.com/evolvedbinary/appbundler/blob/main/appbundler/native/main.m">https://github.com/evolvedbinary/appbundler/blob/main/appbundler/native/main.m</a>
      where Java runtimes are searched for.</div>
    <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">From a very cursory look, I'd
      say it first searches for `/Library/Internet
      Plug-Ins/JavaAppletPlugin.plugin/Contents/Home/bin/java`</div>
    <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">and then uses
      `/usr/libexec/java_home` to find a matching JVM.</div>
    <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><br>
    </div>
    <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">If neither brings a result, it
      fails.</div>
    <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><br>
    </div>
    <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">Besides that Oracle Java is
      anyway questionable to be used since they changed their licensing.</div>
    <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">So maybe you also try with
      Temurin as Bobb suggested.</div>
    <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><br>
    </div>
    <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">Cheers</div>
    <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">Bj&ouml;rn</div>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 07.11.2023 18:07, schrieb Gregory
      Garretson:<br>
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      Hi Jack,
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      <div>Thanks, but I&#8217;m afraid it doesn&#8217;t seem to. I&#8217;ve installed
        both the JRE and the JDK, but jEdit still tells me to install
        Java 11 or later, even though I get this:</div>
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            --version</span></p>
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          auto; font-variation-settings: normal;"><span
            style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures">java
            21.0.1 2023-10-17 LTS</span></p>
        <p style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps:
          normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height:
          normal; font-family: Menlo; font-size-adjust: none;
          font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal;
          font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal;
          font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position:
          normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing:
          auto; font-variation-settings: normal;"><span
            style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures">Java(TM)
            SE Runtime Environment (build 21.0.1+12-LTS-29)</span></p>
        <p style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps:
          normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 11px; line-height:
          normal; font-family: Menlo; font-size-adjust: none;
          font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal;
          font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal;
          font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position:
          normal; font-feature-settings: normal; font-optical-sizing:
          auto; font-variation-settings: normal;"><span
            style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures">Java
            HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 21.0.1+12-LTS-29, mixed
            mode, sharing)</span></p>
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      <div><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures"><br>
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      <div><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures">Any
          more thoughts?</span></div>
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      <div><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures">Thanks,</span></div>
      <div>Gregory</div>
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          <div>On Nov 7, 2023, at 4:56 PM, Jack W.
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              <div dir="ltr">Does this help? <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://docs.oracle.com/en/java/javase/11/install/installation-jdk-macos.html">https://docs.oracle.com/en/java/javase/11/install/installation-jdk-macos.html</a></div>
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                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at
                  9:35&#8239;AM Gregory Garretson &lt;<a
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                  MacBook with an M3 Apple Silicon processor. <br>
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                  My problem is that while jEdit 5.6 successfully
                  installs on the machine, it doesn&#8217;t detect Java. It
                  looks for Java 11,</blockquote>
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                                                    style="font-family:monospace">Jack
                                                    Woehr&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
                                                    # If it doesn't work
                                                    in Firefox,<br>
                                                    Box 82, Beulah CO
                                                    81023&nbsp; # it's
                                                    broken.<br>
                                                    <a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.softwoehr.com/" target="_blank">http://www.softwoehr.com</a>
                                                    # Just Say No to
                                                    Chrome.</span><br>
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