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Hi Daniel,
Some answers.
>> You must have great knowledge of both python and sed to do this
Not really but enough determination to make it work. The most difficult part is the digit addition and subtraction snippets extracted from Greg Ubben's dc. These are very clever.
>> How did you get inspired to do this?
When I started to use sed (long time ago), I realized it was possible to increment an integer with substitutions. Having studied computability and computer language implementation, it was tempting to check if a complete language could be implemented with sed (nothing new, I know about dc, turing machines, lisp, in sed).
>> Is the intention to produce something practical?
Nothing practical, but a lot of fun.
>> Any reason called numsed?
numpy is the reference mathematics library for python.
Thanks for your interest.
Gilles
---In [email protected], <dgoldman@...> wrote :
The https://github.com/GillesArcas/numsed https://github.com/GillesArcas/numsed web page has a pretty detailed
description. IMO, this is pretty incredible programming. You must have
great knowledge of both python and sed to do this.
I take it PythonSed is a sed implementation written in the python
language, that you previously wrote. Is that correct? What was it like
programming sed in python? Any new insights into sed result for you?
For numsed, here is a simple example from the website (input python
script, intermediate opcodes, output sed script), that I think makes it
a little more clear.
********** python - add.py (5 lines)
# assign add
m = 42
n = 5
p = m + n
print(p)
*********** opcodes - add.opc (97 lines)
Complete listing is in:
https://github.com/GillesArcas/numsed/blob/master/examples/add.opc https://github.com/GillesArcas/numsed/blob/master/examples/add.opc
STARTUP
LOAD_CONST print.func
MAKE_FUNCTION 0
STORE_NAME print
LOAD_CONST signed_add.func
MAKE_FUNCTION 0
STORE_NAME signed_add
LOAD_CONST 42
STORE_NAME m
...
:signed_add.func
MAKE_CONTEXT
STORE_FAST y
STORE_FAST x
LOAD_FAST x
IS_POSITIVE
POP_JUMP_IF_FALSE 85
...
:print.func
PRINT_ITEMS
PRINT_NEWLINE
LOAD_CONST 0
RETURN_VALUE
*********** sed add.sed (1185 lines)
Complete listing is in:
https://github.com/GillesArcas/numsed/blob/master/examples/add.sed https://github.com/GillesArcas/numsed/blob/master/examples/add.sed
x
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s/^[0-9]*;[0-9]*;[0-9]*;/NAN/ # PS: NAN*
...
:.L73 # PS: label
s/^R0$//;t R0
s/^R1$//;t R1
s/^end_of_script$//;t end_of_script
b UnknownLabel
How did you get inspired to do this? Is the intention to produce
something practical, or just a fascinating exploration (nothing wrong
with that)? Any reason called numsed?
Thanks,
Daniel
On 10/28/2018 5:28 AM, gilles_arcas@... mailto:gilles_arcas@... [sed-users] wrote:
> After my full implementation of sed in python (PythonSed https://github.com/GillesArcas/PythonSed) https://github.com/GillesArcas/PythonSed), I present to you my compiler from python to sed: numsed https://github.com/GillesArcas/numsed. https://github.com/GillesArcas/numsed.
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> OK, a small subset of python but sufficient to express any integer calculation: all operations, assignments, conditionals, loops, functions (recursion is supported) and printing. A lot of testing, including with examples from Project Euler. Testing is done by running the original python script and the resulting sed script and comparing their results.
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> A lot of improvements are possible, either by completing the compiled features (for instance strings or arrays), or by making the generated sed code more efficient. Note that the digit addition, subtraction and multiplication are borrowed from dc from Greg Ubben and improvements on these operations seems difficult. Anyway, suggestions will be very welcome.
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Hi Daniel,<br>
<br>
<br>
Some answers.<br>
<br>
<br>
>> You must have great knowledge of both python and sed to do this<br>
<br>
<br>
Not really but enough determination to make it work. The most difficult part is the digit addition and subtraction snippets extracted from Greg Ubben's dc. These are very clever.<br>
<br>
<br>
>> How did you get inspired to do this? <br>
<br>
<br>
When I started to use sed (long time ago), I realized it was possible to increment an integer with substitutions. Having studied computability and computer language implementation, it was tempting to check if a complete language could be implemented with sed (nothing new, I know about dc, turing machines, lisp, in sed).<br>
<br>
<br>
>> Is the intention to produce something practical? <br>
<br>
<br>
Nothing practical, but a lot of fun.<br>
<br>
<br>
>> Any reason called numsed?<br>
<br>
numpy is the reference mathematics library for python.<br>
<br>
<br>
Thanks for your interest.<br>
Gilles<br>
<br>
---In [email protected], <dgoldman@...> wrote :<br>
<br>
The https://github.com/GillesArcas/numsed https://github.com/GillesArcas/numsed web page has a pretty detailed <br>
description. IMO, this is pretty incredible programming. You must have <br>
great knowledge of both python and sed to do this.<br>
<br>
I take it PythonSed is a sed implementation written in the python <br>
language, that you previously wrote. Is that correct? What was it like <br>
programming sed in python? Any new insights into sed result for you?<br>
<br>
For numsed, here is a simple example from the website (input python <br>
script, intermediate opcodes, output sed script), that I think makes it <br>
a little more clear.<br>
<br>
********** python - add.py (5 lines)<br>
<br>
# assign add<br>
m = 42<br>
n = 5<br>
p = m + n<br>
print(p)<br>
<br>
*********** opcodes - add.opc (97 lines)<br>
<br>
Complete listing is in:<br>
https://github.com/GillesArcas/numsed/blob/master/examples/add.opc https://github.com/GillesArcas/numsed/blob/master/examples/add.opc<br>
<br>
STARTUP<br>
LOAD_CONST print.func<br>
MAKE_FUNCTION 0<br>
STORE_NAME print<br>
LOAD_CONST signed_add.func<br>
MAKE_FUNCTION 0<br>
STORE_NAME signed_add<br>
LOAD_CONST 42<br>
STORE_NAME m<br>
...<br>
:signed_add.func<br>
MAKE_CONTEXT<br>
STORE_FAST y<br>
STORE_FAST x<br>
LOAD_FAST x<br>
IS_POSITIVE<br>
POP_JUMP_IF_FALSE 85<br>
...<br>
:print.func<br>
PRINT_ITEMS<br>
PRINT_NEWLINE<br>
LOAD_CONST 0<br>
RETURN_VALUE<br>
<br>
*********** sed add.sed (1185 lines)<br>
<br>
Complete listing is in:<br>
https://github.com/GillesArcas/numsed/blob/master/examples/add.sed https://github.com/GillesArcas/numsed/blob/master/examples/add.sed<br>
<br>
x<br>
s/.*/end_of_script;@/<br>
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bL71<br>
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s/.*;x;([^;]*)[^|]*$/\1;&/ # PS: x;?;v;x? HS: ?;v;x?<br>
tL41<br>
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<br>
:L60 # if invalid subtraction<br>
s/^[0-9]*;[0-9]*;[0-9]*;/NAN/ # PS: NAN*<br>
...<br>
:.L73 # PS: label<br>
s/^R0$//;t R0<br>
s/^R1$//;t R1<br>
s/^end_of_script$//;t end_of_script<br>
b UnknownLabel<br>
<br>
How did you get inspired to do this? Is the intention to produce <br>
something practical, or just a fascinating exploration (nothing wrong <br>
with that)? Any reason called numsed?<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Daniel<br>
<br>
On 10/28/2018 5:28 AM, gilles_arcas@... mailto:gilles_arcas@... [sed-users] wrote:<br>
> After my full implementation of sed in python (PythonSed https://github.com/GillesArcas/PythonSed) https://github.com/GillesArcas/PythonSed), I present to you my compiler from python to sed: numsed https://github.com/GillesArcas/numsed. https://github.com/GillesArcas/numsed.<br>
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> OK, a small subset of python but sufficient to express any integer calculation: all operations, assignments, conditionals, loops, functions (recursion is supported) and printing. A lot of testing, including with examples from Project Euler. Testing is done by running the original python script and the resulting sed script and comparing their results.<br>
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> A lot of improvements are possible, either by completing the compiled features (for instance strings or arrays), or by making the generated sed code more efficient. Note that the digit addition, subtraction and multiplication are borrowed from dc from Greg Ubben and improvements on these operations seems difficult. Anyway, suggestions will be very welcome.<br>
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margin: 0;
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color: #0000ff;
text-decoration: none;
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font-family: Arial;
}
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margin: 10px 0px;
font-weight: 700;
font-size: 78%;
line-height: 122%;
}
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margin-bottom: 10px;
padding: 0 0;
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font-family: Verdana;
font-size: 11px;
padding: 10px 0;
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background-color: #e0ecee;
float: left;
font-family: Verdana;
font-size: 10px;
padding: 10px;
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font-weight: 700;
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text-transform: uppercase;
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color: #5085b6;
text-decoration: none;
}
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color: #ff7900;
}
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text-decoration: underline;
}
.attach {
clear: both;
display: table;
font-family: Arial;
font-size: 12px;
padding: 10px 0;
width: 400px;
}
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text-decoration: none;
}
.attach img {
border: none;
padding-right: 5px;
}
.attach label {
display: block;
margin-bottom: 5px;
}
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text-decoration: none;
}
blockquote {
margin: 0 0 0 4px;
}
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font-family: Arial;
font-size: 13px;
font-weight: 700;
}
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text-decoration: none;
}
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font-family: Verdana;
font-weight: 700;
}
dd.last p span {
margin-right: 10px;
font-family: Verdana;
font-weight: 700;
}
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margin-right: 0;
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div.attach-table div div a {
text-decoration: none;
}
div.attach-table {
width: 400px;
}
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text-decoration: none;
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text-decoration: none;
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font-family: Verdana;
font-size: 10px;
font-weight: normal;
}
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color: #628c2a;
}
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margin: 0 0 0 0;
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font-size: 0;
}
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float: left;
width: 72px;
}
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border: 1px solid #666666;
height: 62px;
overflow: hidden;
width: 62px;
}
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color: #666666;
font-size: 10px;
overflow: hidden;
text-align: center;
white-space: nowrap;
width: 64px;
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font-size: 77%;
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font-size: 77%;
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.replbq {
margin: 4px;
}
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/* border-right: 0px solid #000;*/
margin-right: 2px;
padding-right: 5px;
}
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font-size: 13px;
font-family: Arial, helvetica,clean, sans-serif;
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}
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font-size: inherit;
font: 100%;
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}
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font:115% monospace;
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padding-bottom: 10px;
}
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font-family: Verdana;
}
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color: #1E66AE;
font-weight: 700;
}
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color: #ff7900;
font-weight: 700;
}
#ygrp-reco {
margin-bottom: 20px;
padding: 0px;
}
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font-size: 130%;
text-decoration: none;
}
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font-size: 77%;
list-style-type: square;
padding: 6px 0;
}
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margin: 0;
padding: 0 0 0 8px;
}
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font-family: Georgia;
}
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margin: 0 0 1em 0;
}
#ygrp-text tt {
font-size: 120%;
}
#ygrp-vital ul li:last-child {
border-right: none !important;
}
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