Re: I had to replace gvim with neovim

On 2024-03-05, Steve Litt wrote:
> Rory Campbell-Lange said on Mon, 4 Mar 2024 20:21:38 +0000
> 
> >On 28/02/24, Steve Litt wrote:
> >> Gary Johnson said on Wed, 28 Feb 2024 06:45:04 -0800
> >>   
> >> >On 2024-02-28, Steve Litt wrote:  
> >> >> The gvim program became too much of a hassle because it printed
> >> >> all sorts of GTk errors and warnings to the terminal  
> >
> >> > Try starting gvim this way and see if the warnings go away.
> >> >
> >> >    $ gvim 2> /dev/null  
> >> 
> >> Thanks Gary, I should have thought of that. I followed your advice
> >> and renamed /usr/bin/gvim to gvim.warnings, and then made a
> >> shellscript called gvim to call it, piping stderr to /dev/null.  
> >
> >Have you considered using console vim (eg vim-nox on Debian)? One is
> >unlikely to get any GTk errors with that.
> 
> Thanks Rory,
> 
> I got gvim working correctly by piping stderr to /dev/null, but your
> idea has merit. As long as the terminal I use is white background and
> black text, Vim works quite well on it. I could make a shellscript to
> spawn a terminal, make its parent PID1, and run Vim on it. It must be
> a terminal with good copy and paste abilities. As soon as possible I
> will try this. Thank you for the very good idea.

I don't have the details on the vim-nox package, but the name
suggests that is has no support for X as well as no GUI.  Suit
yourself, but you could be without support for copy and paste to and
from the X clipboard, except via the terminal itself.  I don't know
how support for the mouse might be affected.

Fedora has or had a package (vimx or xvim) that provided a terminal
vim with X11 and xterm_clipboard support.  I don't see anything like
that for Ubuntu, though.

You could also build vim yourself, configured just the way you want
it.  It's pretty simple.

It seems a shame to give up X11 support just because GTK is
misbehaving.

Launching vim in a new terminal should be as easy as

    $ xterm -e vim &

or as a function:

    function tvim {
        xterm -e vim "$@" &
    }

or as a shell script:

    #!/bin/sh
    exec xterm -e vim "$@" &

Regards,
Gary

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