Re: StackExchange is a sad thing too

Without wanting to continue participating in this topic's interchange of 
points/arguments, beyond this contribution, I just want to say that *I 
fully agree with what Marc offered* in his reply regarding the 
advantages of older technologies that have become disused, likely 
because people, /being people/, are generally lazy and want a SPOC for 
all things, and only to willing and eager to leave it to /others/ to 
"take care of my backups", hence the explosive adoption of things like 
Facebook, Twitter, etc. ... which are *not* desktop-based, leaving 
everyone at the mercy of "/them/" in remote places.  Just another facet 
of what can only be described as a long game-for destroying physical 
(i.e. neighbourhood) communities of like minds by eventually pulling the 
plug on those centralized services.

Such blind mass-adoption that I feel can only be characterized as 
behaviour similar to lemmings or dodos, and we /know/ what happened to 
the latter!  Hence why I keep my email client, and *all* such personal 
information, in my own hands *at the desktop*.

I will still have *ALL* my resources when the internet fails, as long as 
a nuke hasn't fried my computer.  🙂


Eric

P.S.  This is my email setting for all things. Thank you for understanding.


On 2025-04-01 05:30, Marc Chantreux wrote:
> I Ben and thanks for sharing this feeling,
>
> On Mon, Mar 31, 2025 at 08:24:16PM -0400, D. Ben Knoble wrote:
>>> thanks for this pointer. so sad those questions arise in stack* as we have a
>>> user mailing list.
>> I'm sorry to hear you feel that way; the goal of the StackExchange
>> project was to create a commons of high-quality resources (much like
>> Wikipedia has).
> Wikipedia came out to fill the gap of collaborative places to edit
> articles.
>
> StackExchange just split communities because previous tools (mailing
> lists, newsgroups, archives and FAQ) were so much more convenient but
> in the early years of this millenium, lot of people came to internet
> with no idea of habits and customs of the technical communities.
>
> If it was ignorance, that's very sad. If not, I'll be happy to learn
> abou arguments that was worth splitting communities.
>
>> I think the linked examples are good examples of this
>> (though if you visit the home page you will find more sand than pearls
>> these days, at the cost of having helped a great number of people).
> Did you try newsgroups or mail archives? did you enjoy having your own
> local workflow with mbox mirrors indexed so you can use mutt of
> maildir-utils to query them, add copies of posts or threads in your
> notes and things like that?
>
> StackExchange will never reach this level of convenience. Not to mention
> it's so painful to have a decent conversation through html text ereas.
> especilly for vim or emacs users.
>
> I don't know if StackExchange has an API (I'll be happy to learn about
> it) so I can include it in my workflow but nevertheless: It's extra work
> for same result :(
>
>> Mailing lists are great, and they serve a different purpose for me
>> (cf. the recent extended discussion which might ultimately be boiled
>> down to a high-quality Q&A pair if desired).
> So how do you set the cursor between mailing lists and StackExchange?
>
> We all know the story of questions that looks insignifiant at start
> being the root of a giant threads with very interesting perspectives.
>
> Another point against StackExchange: those kind of threads are so
> painful to follow in a web page.
>
> I couldn't imagine that people could be found of StackExchange
> so I'm really grateful you shared about it.
>
> regards.
>

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