Re: Oh dear, that won't do at all

From the article, which is scant on data numbers, percentiles are never
enough,

' Alex Nash, another third year Classics student, said: “Reforming Mods
should focus on closing the gap between candidates who begin the course
having A- Levels in Latin and Greek and those who don’t.

“The real difference lies in language ability, with some students starting
the course at a clear disadvantage.”

Feliciter.

Lorenzo Smerillo

On Sat, Feb 9, 2019, 22:58 DANIEL P. Tompkins <[email protected]> wrote:

> 'Classics dons who marked last year's exam papers said the gender gap is
> “very troubling”, adding that it must be addressed as a matter of
> "urgency".'
>
>
> Ah, fascinating.  Don’t miss the *Telegraph's* companion article
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> "You don't have to be Left-wing to run an Oxbridge college - but nowadays
> it certainly helps"
>
> I spotted the article Ralph mentions but it was, as he said, gated.  He
> could quite easily paste in the contents for others to read.
> It won't be possible to work on this without more data, and so far,
> possibly oddly, the *Telegraph *has the only coverage.  There are obvious
> questions to ask, one of which will be: are awards equally imbalanced at
> Cambridge?
> Beyond this, we might want to look at performance by male and female
> graduates.  In areas I'm familiar with --  Thucydides,  social and economic
> history,  the fifth century BCE generally -- women are doing excellent
> work.  Did their undergraduate institutions recognize and reward their
> promise?  Another interesting research question.
>
> Assuming the *Telegraph *report is correct, men are primarily getting
> Firsts.  Assuming Neville Morley's
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> fascinating report is correct, Oxonian classicists in Parliament are
> primarily male, Tory, and pro-Brexit.  Assuming my quick 'n dirty survey of
> these folks is accurate, they're largely from high middle or upper-income
> constituencies, many in the SW.  How many Eton etc?  Haven't checked.   But
> these overlaps may not be random.
>
> We need more info.  Now, gotta get back to reading (Polly Low, *Athenian
> Empire*, fine scholar*.*)
>
> Dan
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 4:08 PM Ralph Hancock <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > From the _Daily Telegraph_ web site:
> >
> > *Oxford University's Classics degree to be overhauled in bid to boost
> > number of female students getting Firsts*
> >
> > One of Oxford University's oldest degrees is to be overhauled in bid to
> > boost number of female students getting top grades.
> >
> > Classics dons who marked last year's exam papers said the gender gap is
> > “very troubling”, adding that it must be addressed as a matter of
> > "urgency".
> >
> > More than double the number of men were awarded first class honours in
> > their Finals last year than women, with 46.8 per cent of men achieving
> the
> > top grade compared to 12.5 per cent of their female peers.
> >
> > Academics noted that the gender gap in Finals - which was “already very
> > noticeable” - had “dramatically increased” in the most recent cohort of
> > students due to an a record number of men taking Firsts.
> >
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> > The rest is behind a paywall, though you can register free to read a
> small
> > number of articles.
> >
> >
> >
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> > RH
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