Re: Fwd: Study: Germany needs 260,000 immigrants a year to meet labor demand _News Deutsche Welle 12.02.2019

"DANIEL P. Tompkins" <[email protected]>
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Thanks, Lampros.  Here's a Guardian story on Orban
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fworld%2F2019%2Ffeb%2F10%2Fviktor-orban-no-tax-for-hungarian-women-with-four-or-more-children&amp;data=02%7C01%7CCLASSICS-L%40lsv.uky.edu%7C955b98a06f5a498789ca08d694f6e8b4%7C2b30530b69b64457b818481cb53d42ae%7C0%7C0%7C636860185523943269&amp;sdata=KFG%2Bi8DksEUwxrKViA%2Fv3vJO3ICoFD5e9JzJAbVJD1Y%3D&amp;reserved=0>.
From another angle, here's an article by the brilliant Israeli political
scientist Uriel Abulof, about competing birth rates in Israel:

International Political Sociology (2014) 8, 396–415
Deep Securitization and Israel’s “Demographic Demon”
Uriel Abulof

I can send copies to anyone interested.

On the flip side, note the all-male list of contributors on this topic.
The one woman I mentioned the Orban policy to, snorted and muttered, "He
wants to turn us back into brood mares."

Immigration is pretty good.  The US law of 1924 discriminated vs people
with names like Kallienos, but those who've arrived have done quite well
here.  All along the way, bigots have sought to exclude them.  The young
Moses Finley was a leader on the good side in that fight.

Dan

Dan

On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 3:47 PM Lampros Kallenos <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I have read since many years ago that a solution to the dropping birth
> rates of Europe, not only Germany, could very well be a generous policy
> for the increase of births. Say, 20000 euros to every woman who bears a
> third child. Soon, the country will need more teachers, more schools to
> be built, more houses for the young. More taxes will start to flow.
>
> The very policy for increasing births will imply a collective, national
> point of view. Also, it will mean that we do this because economy and
> society is something you can and must influence. This point of view will
> benefit social movenments. And I mean movenments about labour, not about
> personal problems, real or perceived.
>
> Instead, the powers leading the Western part of the world choose another
> solution. They choose to import immigrants from other countries. From
> their point of view, this presented some advantages. Immigrants will be
> payed less, unless ...they have a visa. Immigrants will be payed less,
> pressed and controled more because they so happen to be more dark
> colored or Muslim that the usual.
>
> Further, societies will be divided in mutually exclusive islands of
> various cultures. Many more loosely grounded cultures will be encouraged
> to flourish. No common identity will be promoted. The very concept of a
> national state will become a target. Instead of social problems, they
> choose to promote personal problems about sex, gender...
>
> With no common identity and perspective, with concerns about personal
> matters promoted to the extreme, indeed with a personal point of view
> raised to an absolute criterion, social movenments will sink. Also, the
> national state will be undermined, and the powers of the market will
> even more happily pursue the goal of globalisation.
>
> Still further, with this policy the more active or radical persons from
> "the third world" will not benefit their country with their actions.
> Rather, they will abandon their countries and become immigrants. People
> of these countries will be encouraged to think that the solution is
> immigration. Not a collective, political action in their country.
>
>
>
>
> _____________________
> Lampros F. Kallenos
> Idalion, Lefkosia
> Kypros
> -.
>
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