Re: SCS controversy, etc.
"DANIEL P. Tompkins" <[email protected]>
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Sorry we disagree! But I look forward to seeing more from you. Dan On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 1:16 PM Mark Davidson <[email protected]> wrote: > I have no sympathy with Mary Frances Williams or her views whatsoever, but > that doesn't mean I have to agree with Dan-el Padilla Peralta either. > > Padilla Peralta wrote in his Medium article: > > "While also well intentioned, compliments for 'grace' and 'composure' under > fire only serve to underscore the domestication of brown bodies..." > > So he's complaining because he was complimented for grace and composure and > maintaining his dignity. > > But what if people had said the opposite? What if they had said that he > should rather have showed anger and started shouting? Then he would be > complaining that he was being urged to fit a stereotype because he's black. > > What if everyone had studiously avoided saying anything to him? Then he > would be complaining that his decent behaviour was ignored because of his > race. > > In fact, is there anything whatsoever that people could have said or > refrained from saying that he wouldn't somehow twist into victimhood? Just > wondering. > > Later in his article he says something that made me do a double-take and > then a face palm. He says: > > "I *should* have been hired because I was black: because my Afro-Latinity > is the rock-solid foundation upon which the edifice of what I have > accomplished and everything I hope to accomplish rests; because my black > body’s vulnerability challenges and chastizes the universalizing > pretensions of color-blind classics; ... That scholarly merit can, even in > the minds and hearts of supporters and well-wishers, be decoupled from the > fact of my Afro-Latinity is why the rage will continue to burn brightly." > > Um... so he's angry because he *wasn't* hired because he's black? He says > he was hired on merit, but he's angry because of this - he *should* have > been hired merely because he's black. > > I have to wonder why, in that case, he found Mary Frances Williams' > suggestion that he was hired because he was black insulting? > > There seems to be an utter lack of logic to what he is saying. But perhaps > we should all just smile and nod, and give him a pass... because he's > black... > > > I also wasted my time reading the introduction to the book that Dan > Tompkins recommended, The Rule of Moderation by Ethan H. Shagan. > > Far from being ground-breaking, it seems to me that the author's arguments > are trivially true. > > He says that a certain degree of variation in religion, culture, etc. was > tolerated, but the state came down hard on anything outside those limits. > > So what? Moderation doesn't mean anarchy. All states have laws and limits > and repress people who act outside those limits. > > The moderation of 16th and 17th century England lay in the wide range that > was tolerated - far wider than practically any other country at the time. > Any number of examples of the state harshly repressing things outside that > range go to prove nothing new. > > Mark D >