Re: CLASSICS-L Digest - 5 Aug 2019 to 7 Aug 2019 (#2019-170)

Thanks Owen and Andrew for your responses to my Herodotus question.

Ken

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>   1. Herodotus translated by George Rawlinson (3)
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> Date:    Tue, 6 Aug 2019 13:07:30 -0700
> From:    Kenneth Litwak <[email protected]>
> Subject: Herodotus translated by George Rawlinson
>
> Hi,
>     I have a question about *History of Herodotus* by George Rawlinson.
> Part of my role as reference librarian is to weed books. We have the LOEB
> edition of Herodotus in print and ebook formats. Apart from the fact that
> no one has ever checked out the Rawlinson translation, is there any good
> reason because it is a better translation or because the footnotes and
> annotations by the editor are really helpful, in order to keep this? It's
> at a regional campus with very limited shelf space. Any comments? I'll add
> that this is a seminary, we don't have a classics program, and the odds are
> low that anyone, faculty or Ph.D. student will check this out. However, if
> it has content that is really superior to the Loeb edition, we can keep it
> at our main library. Thanks.
>
> Ken
>
> --
> Kenneth D. Litwak, Ph.D.
> Reference and Instruction Librarian
> Gateway Seminary
> 3210 E Guasti Rd
> Ontario, CA 91761
> [email protected] <[email protected]>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Tue, 6 Aug 2019 20:22:04 +0000
> From:    Owen Cramer <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Herodotus translated by George Rawlinson
>
> There are lots of Rawlinson Herodotus texts out there -- it's to Hdt. What
> Crawley is to Thuc. A model Victorian translation. George Rawlinson was the
> stay-at-home younger brother of the dashing Henry Rawlinson, who figured
> out Cuneiform as part of the British presence in the middle east (Behistun
> is on the route between Iraq and Persia, on the way to India), and Henry is
> credited on the title page with helping. So it's worth paying attention to,
> but not a better translation in itself than the Loeb's (by Godley, who
> seems to have been best known for humorous, classically informed, verse
> like this:
> What is this that roareth thus?
> Can it be a Motor Bus?
> Yes, the smell and hideous hum
> Indicat Motorem Bum!
> Implet in the Corn and High
> Terror me Motoris Bi:
> Bo Motori clamitabo
> Ne Motore caedar a Bo---
> Dative be or Ablative
> So thou only let us live:---
> Whither shall thy victims flee?
> Spare us, spare us, Motor Be!
> Thus I sang; and still anigh
> Came in hordes Motores Bi,
> Et complebat omne forum
> Copia Motorum Borum.
> How shall wretches live like us
> Cincti Bis Motoribus?
> Domine, defende nos
> Contra hos Motores Bos!
> More useful actually to have one of the more recent translations that have
> notes informed by archeological finds.
> Owen Cramer
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Classical Greek and Latin Discussion Group <[email protected]>
> On Behalf Of Kenneth Litwak
> Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2019 2:08 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Herodotus translated by George Rawlinson
>
> This email originated outside Colorado College. Do not click links or
> attachments unless you know the content is safe.
>
>
> Hi,
>     I have a question about *History of Herodotus* by George Rawlinson.
> Part of my role as reference librarian is to weed books. We have the LOEB
> edition of Herodotus in print and ebook formats. Apart from the fact that
> no one has ever checked out the Rawlinson translation, is there any good
> reason because it is a better translation or because the footnotes and
> annotations by the editor are really helpful, in order to keep this? It's
> at a regional campus with very limited shelf space. Any comments? I'll add
> that this is a seminary, we don't have a classics program, and the odds are
> low that anyone, faculty or Ph.D. student will check this out. However, if
> it has content that is really superior to the Loeb edition, we can keep it
> at our main library. Thanks.
>
> Ken
>
> --
> Kenneth D. Litwak, Ph.D.
> Reference and Instruction Librarian
> Gateway Seminary
> 3210 E Guasti Rd
> Ontario, CA 91761
> [email protected] <[email protected]>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Tue, 6 Aug 2019 20:24:35 +0000
> From:    "Szegedy-Maszak, Andrew" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Herodotus translated by George Rawlinson
>
> I agree with Owen, and I'd recommend that you get the Landmark Herodotus,
> which your constituents would find very useful.
>
>
>
> Andrew Szegedy-Maszak
> Professor of Classical Studies
> Jane A. Seney Professor of Greek
> Wesleyan University
> Middletown, CT  06459
> ph: 860.685.2065
> fax: 860.685.2089
> ________________________________
> From: Classical Greek and Latin Discussion Group <[email protected]>
> on behalf of Owen Cramer <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2019 4:22 PM
> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [CLASSICS-L] Herodotus translated by George Rawlinson
>
> There are lots of Rawlinson Herodotus texts out there -- it's to Hdt. What
> Crawley is to Thuc. A model Victorian translation. George Rawlinson was the
> stay-at-home younger brother of the dashing Henry Rawlinson, who figured
> out Cuneiform as part of the British presence in the middle east (Behistun
> is on the route between Iraq and Persia, on the way to India), and Henry is
> credited on the title page with helping. So it's worth paying attention to,
> but not a better translation in itself than the Loeb's (by Godley, who
> seems to have been best known for humorous, classically informed, verse
> like this:
> What is this that roareth thus?
> Can it be a Motor Bus?
> Yes, the smell and hideous hum
> Indicat Motorem Bum!
> Implet in the Corn and High
> Terror me Motoris Bi:
> Bo Motori clamitabo
> Ne Motore caedar a Bo---
> Dative be or Ablative
> So thou only let us live:---
> Whither shall thy victims flee?
> Spare us, spare us, Motor Be!
> Thus I sang; and still anigh
> Came in hordes Motores Bi,
> Et complebat omne forum
> Copia Motorum Borum.
> How shall wretches live like us
> Cincti Bis Motoribus?
> Domine, defende nos
> Contra hos Motores Bos!
> More useful actually to have one of the more recent translations that have
> notes informed by archeological finds.
> Owen Cramer
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Classical Greek and Latin Discussion Group <[email protected]>
> On Behalf Of Kenneth Litwak
> Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2019 2:08 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Herodotus translated by George Rawlinson
>
> This email originated outside Colorado College. Do not click links or
> attachments unless you know the content is safe.
>
>
> Hi,
>     I have a question about *History of Herodotus* by George Rawlinson.
> Part of my role as reference librarian is to weed books. We have the LOEB
> edition of Herodotus in print and ebook formats. Apart from the fact that
> no one has ever checked out the Rawlinson translation, is there any good
> reason because it is a better translation or because the footnotes and
> annotations by the editor are really helpful, in order to keep this? It's
> at a regional campus with very limited shelf space. Any comments? I'll add
> that this is a seminary, we don't have a classics program, and the odds are
> low that anyone, faculty or Ph.D. student will check this out. However, if
> it has content that is really superior to the Loeb edition, we can keep it
> at our main library. Thanks.
>
> Ken
>
> --
> Kenneth D. Litwak, Ph.D.
> Reference and Instruction Librarian
> Gateway Seminary
> 3210 E Guasti Rd
> Ontario, CA 91761
> [email protected] <[email protected]>
>
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>
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Reference and Instructional Services Librarian
Gateway Seminary
3210 E Guasti Rd
Ontario, CA 91761
[email protected] <[email protected]>