Re: Odyssey question

Owen Cramer <[email protected]> Sat, 31 Aug 2019 16:31:40 +0000
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Thanks! That's helpful and reinforces the idea that archery *works*: even the axe trick in the Odyssey, I guess.
Owen Cramer

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The Lars Andersen video was debunked a long time ago.

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On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 10:04 AM Owen Cramer <[email protected]>
wrote:

> By the way, virtuoso archery even without pharmaka can shoot a lot of 
> people pretty fast. There's a guy called Lars Andersen who has 
> mastered the art -- video at 
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> For a more comical look at Odyssean archery, see this:
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> Thanks. That was just what was called for.
>
> On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 10:19 AM Dimitri Nakassis <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > On p. 107 of Stephanie West's commentary of Odyssey 1 (the lemma is
> > 257
> > ff.):
> >
> > "In the scholia it is suggested that the poet was here preparing the 
> > ground for Odysseus' slaughter of the suitors, since the use of 
> > arrow-poison would make it much easier for every shot to prove 
> > fatal;
> this may well be right."
> >
> > Then on p. 108: "See further F. Dirlmeier, 'Die Giftpfeile des Odysseus'
> > SHAW 1966, 2, Clay, Wrath, 71-2."
> >
> > Dimitri
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 8:31 PM Jean Alvares 
> > <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > wow, never thought of that!
> > >
> > > On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 9:05 AM Ralph Hancock 
> > > <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Here is my absolutely naive response, and the point may have 
> > > > been made
> > > (or
> > > > rubbished) a thousand times without my knowing it. The Greeks'
> > > > troubles begin, at the start of the Iliad, with Apollo firing 
> > > > poisoned (or
> > > infected,
> > > > or magical) arrows at them. And at the end of the Odyssey the 
> > > > situation
> > > is
> > > > resolved by one Greek's arrows (if not poisoned, at least used
> > trickily).
> > > > So is Athena's reference to poisoned arrows part of a running 
> > > > theme, a means of progressing the story?
> > > >
> > > > RH
> > > >
> > >
> >
>