Re: Odyssey question
Owen Cramer <[email protected]> Sat, 31 Aug 2019 16:31:40 +0000
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Thanks! That's helpful and reinforces the idea that archery *works*: even the axe trick in the Odyssey, I guess. Owen Cramer -----Original Message----- From: Classical Greek and Latin Discussion Group <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bradley Skene Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2019 9:29 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Odyssey question This email originated outside Colorado College. Do not click links or attachments unless you know the content is safe. The Lars Andersen video was debunked a long time ago. https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DrDbqz_07dW4&data=02%7C01%7CCLASSICS-L%40LSV.UKY.EDU%7Ca65304f5face4bc876af08d72e30b4be%7C2b30530b69b64457b818481cb53d42ae%7C0%7C0%7C637028659048816303&sdata=5EqHmtw0lwTXyQ0G%2FhXBSyq8NHIDfu4G%2Fl6RSy3%2BrOw%3D&reserved=0 On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 10:04 AM Owen Cramer <[email protected]> wrote: > By the way, virtuoso archery even without pharmaka can shoot a lot of > people pretty fast. There's a guy called Lars Andersen who has > mastered the art -- video at > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DBEG-ly9tQGk&data=02%7C01%7CCLASSICS-L%40LSV.UKY.EDU%7Ca65304f5face4bc876af08d72e30b4be%7C2b30530b69b64457b818481cb53d42ae%7C0%7C0%7C637028659048816303&sdata=3C%2BMPULGheSWvaQyPAERM%2BHNmYSEXExGGSC7kW3f%2BpE%3D&reserved=0. > > For a more comical look at Odyssean archery, see this: > https://www. > youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D2mUKauErjfM&data=02%7C01%7COCramer%40COL > ORADOCOLLEGE.EDU%7C1203c719aeaa40d18b6808d72e27f101%7Ccfc7b13c12964387 > b3085de08fd13c99%7C1%7C0%7C637028621398890473&sdata=gnkC8A29ZBsIki > CeNz4jZOSzlPqdRi9p3HD78gRHZzo%3D&reserved=0 > . > OC > > -----Original Message----- > From: Classical Greek and Latin Discussion Group > <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jean Alvares > Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2019 4:48 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Odyssey question > > This email originated outside Colorado College. Do not click links or > attachments unless you know the content is safe. > > > Thanks. That was just what was called for. > > On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 10:19 AM Dimitri Nakassis <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > On p. 107 of Stephanie West's commentary of Odyssey 1 (the lemma is > > 257 > > ff.): > > > > "In the scholia it is suggested that the poet was here preparing the > > ground for Odysseus' slaughter of the suitors, since the use of > > arrow-poison would make it much easier for every shot to prove > > fatal; > this may well be right." > > > > Then on p. 108: "See further F. Dirlmeier, 'Die Giftpfeile des Odysseus' > > SHAW 1966, 2, Clay, Wrath, 71-2." > > > > Dimitri > > > > On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 8:31 PM Jean Alvares > > <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > wow, never thought of that! > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 9:05 AM Ralph Hancock > > > <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Here is my absolutely naive response, and the point may have > > > > been made > > > (or > > > > rubbished) a thousand times without my knowing it. The Greeks' > > > > troubles begin, at the start of the Iliad, with Apollo firing > > > > poisoned (or > > > infected, > > > > or magical) arrows at them. And at the end of the Odyssey the > > > > situation > > > is > > > > resolved by one Greek's arrows (if not poisoned, at least used > > trickily). > > > > So is Athena's reference to poisoned arrows part of a running > > > > theme, a means of progressing the story? > > > > > > > > RH > > > > > > > > > >