Re: "quiproquo"

David Schaps <[email protected]> Sun, 8 Dec 2019 14:40:39 +0200
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The two meanings are apparently simply two different meanings of "pro": the
American meaning is "offering one thing in exchange for another" (L&S s.v.
pro II B 2), whereas the European one is "taking one thing for another"
(L&S s.v. pro II B 3).

On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 3:26 AM Owen Cramer <[email protected]>
wrote:

> OTOH the model for this White House, via the President's one-time mentor
> Roy Cohn and Cohn's mob pals, is the kind of veiled "offer he can't refus=
e"
> we love in the mafia movies.
> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.y=
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> Owen Cramer
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Classical Greek and Latin Discussion Group <[email protected]>
> On Behalf Of DANIEL P. Tompkins
> Sent: Saturday, December 7, 2019 3:03 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: "quiproquo"
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> Thanks to all for your helpful responses!
>
> Dan
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Dec 7, 2019, at 4:06 PM, Lorenzo Smerillo <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > quip roquo is vulgar Latin for a joke request.
> > But quid pro'quo is a store in Britannia selling everything for near a
> quid.
> >
> > On Sat, 7 Dec 2019 at 21:22, Maria Luisa <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> In fact, the American way to say it is =E2=80=9Cquid pro quo=E2=80=9D,=
 which means
> >> something in exchange for something else, while in Europe we use =E2=
=80=9Cqui
> >> pro quo=E2=80=9D, as misunderstanding, i. E. As you had used qui inste=
ad of
> >> quo in a sentence.
> >> Best,
> >> Maria Luisa
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>>> On Dec 7, 2019, at 12:03 PM, Marcello Nobili
> >>>> <[email protected]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> =EF=BB=BFLatin "qui pro quo" in current Italian usage means a misunde=
rstanding.
> >>>
> >>> Best wishes,
> >>>
> >>> Marcello
> >>>
> >>>> Il giorno sab 7 dic 2019 alle ore 20:06 DANIEL P. Tompkins <
> >>>> [email protected]> ha scritto:
> >>>>
> >>>> Working through a French essay right now I come across the word
> >>>> *quiproquo*, which translates as "misunderstanding."  Not exactly
> >>>> what the White
> >> House
> >>>> means.  It's always intriguing when the same word can mean two
> >>>> different things in different countries (I had examples but have of
> >>>> course
> >> forgotten
> >>>> them).
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Would love to hear from someone who's actually worked on this.
> >>>>
> >>>> Dan
> >>
>


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