Re: "quiproquo"
David Schaps <[email protected]> Sun, 8 Dec 2019 14:40:39 +0200
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The two meanings are apparently simply two different meanings of "pro": the American meaning is "offering one thing in exchange for another" (L&S s.v. pro II B 2), whereas the European one is "taking one thing for another" (L&S s.v. pro II B 3). On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 3:26 AM Owen Cramer <[email protected]> wrote: > OTOH the model for this White House, via the President's one-time mentor > Roy Cohn and Cohn's mob pals, is the kind of veiled "offer he can't refus= e" > we love in the mafia movies. > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.y= outube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DfBNpSRtfIUA&data=3D02%7C01%7CCLASSICS-L%40lsv.= uky.edu%7Ce9d94bc656b54390b8cf08d77bdbeb81%7C2b30530b69b64457b818481cb53d42= ae%7C0%7C0%7C637114056786877878&sdata=3DuGo77qCjy3N%2BurWnVJWtIIn8IM3Li= Ya2R9zgEmQHPKo%3D&reserved=3D0 > Owen Cramer > > -----Original Message----- > From: Classical Greek and Latin Discussion Group <[email protected]> > On Behalf Of DANIEL P. Tompkins > Sent: Saturday, December 7, 2019 3:03 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: "quiproquo" > > This email originated outside Colorado College. Do not click links or > attachments unless you know the content is safe. > > > Thanks to all for your helpful responses! > > Dan > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Dec 7, 2019, at 4:06 PM, Lorenzo Smerillo <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > quip roquo is vulgar Latin for a joke request. > > But quid pro'quo is a store in Britannia selling everything for near a > quid. > > > > On Sat, 7 Dec 2019 at 21:22, Maria Luisa <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > >> In fact, the American way to say it is =E2=80=9Cquid pro quo=E2=80=9D,= which means > >> something in exchange for something else, while in Europe we use =E2= =80=9Cqui > >> pro quo=E2=80=9D, as misunderstanding, i. E. As you had used qui inste= ad of > >> quo in a sentence. > >> Best, > >> Maria Luisa > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >>>> On Dec 7, 2019, at 12:03 PM, Marcello Nobili > >>>> <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> =EF=BB=BFLatin "qui pro quo" in current Italian usage means a misunde= rstanding. > >>> > >>> Best wishes, > >>> > >>> Marcello > >>> > >>>> Il giorno sab 7 dic 2019 alle ore 20:06 DANIEL P. Tompkins < > >>>> [email protected]> ha scritto: > >>>> > >>>> Working through a French essay right now I come across the word > >>>> *quiproquo*, which translates as "misunderstanding." Not exactly > >>>> what the White > >> House > >>>> means. It's always intriguing when the same word can mean two > >>>> different things in different countries (I had examples but have of > >>>> course > >> forgotten > >>>> them). > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Would love to hear from someone who's actually worked on this. > >>>> > >>>> Dan > >> > --=20 Prof. Em. David M. Schaps Department of Classical Studies Bar-Ilan University 5290002 Ramat-Gan, Israel -972-53-312-5666