Sophocles Antigone - Question re English/German translations

Patrick Ozzard-Low <[email protected]> Mon, 9 Dec 2019 13:09:18 +0000
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Hello



My first post to this list. If I am in the wrong place, or there's a better
one to ask -- I'd be grateful to know -- Thanks!



I have some questions about *the relation between English and German
translations of Antigone*. I don=E2=80=99t speak German or have a knowledge=
 of
Ancient Greek, and at the moment no access to a good library.  The
questions are for partly for CD notes, partly for personal interest.



In the first (famous) Stasimon, most English translations are given in
terms of =E2=80=98Wonder=E2=80=99.  For example: =E2=80=98Wonders are many,=
 and none is more
wonderful than man=E2=80=99. (Jebb)  // =E2=80=98Many are the Wonders, none=
 / is more
wonderful than what is man=E2=80=99.  (David Grene, Chicago) // =E2=80=98Am=
ong the many
wonders of the world / Where is the equal of this creature, man?=E2=80=99 (=
Seamus
Heaney, Faber).  Etc.



In German, this is often phrased in terms of =E2=80=98Ungeheurer=E2=80=99 (=
'Monstrous',
which perhaps originates from H=C3=B6lderlin's translation). For example:
=E2=80=98Ungeheuer ist viel. Doch nichts / Ungeheuerer als der Mensch=E2=80=
=99. (H=C3=B6lderlin)
// =E2=80=98Monstrous, a lot. But nothing / More monstrous than man=E2=80=
=99. (H=C3=B6lderlin,
trans. David Constantine) // =E2=80=98There is much that is monstrous.  But=
 nothing
/ More monstrous than man=E2=80=99. (Brecht, based on Holderlin, trans. Jud=
ith
Malina) // =E2=80=98Zahlreich ist das Ungeheure, doch nichts / ungeheurer a=
ls der
Mensch=E2=80=99 (Kurt Steinmann, Reclam XL) // =E2=80=98Vieles Gewalt=E2=80=
=99ge lebt, und nichts /
Ist gewaltiger als der Mensch=E2=80=99. (August Boskh)



My questions are:



Do German translations exist that interpret this in term of =E2=80=98Wonder=
=E2=80=99?

If so, which translations? Perhaps the =E2=80=98monstrous=E2=80=99 traditio=
n follows
H=C3=B6lderlin, but there is also another parallel lineage?

Presumably Sophocles=E2=80=99 original Greek is ambiguous =E2=80=93 which w=
ords in
particular?

Does this ambiguity surface across other languages in a similar way?



Of course, =E2=80=98Wonder=E2=80=99 and =E2=80=98Monstrous=E2=80=99 are clo=
sely related (different aspects
of awe or astonishment) yet also opposite.



I assume I=E2=80=99m describing something that has previously been observed=
 by
serious Antigone scholars=E2=80=94but I've searched high and low without
discovering comment on this.  If anyone could offer pointers to relevant
articles, or answer directly, I would be very grateful!



Thank you



Patrick