Re: Oh no, it's Voynich again
Mark Davidson <[email protected]> Thu, 12 Dec 2019 07:03:27 +0200
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Gerard Cheshire still seems to be doing the rounds of various scholarly lists, trying to find someone to accept his theory. However, the consensus among linguists, medieval scholars, and cryptography experts familiar with the Voynich manuscript seems to be... negative... to put it politely. Lisa Fagin Davis, executive director of the Medieval Academy of America, summed it up: "As with most would-be Voynich interpreters, the logic of this proposal is circular and aspirational: he starts with a theory about what a particular series of glyphs might mean, usually because of the word's proximity to an image that he believes he can interpret. He then investigates any number of medieval Romance-language dictionaries until he finds a word that seems to suit his theory. Then he argues that because he has found a Romance-language word that fits his hypothesis, his hypothesis must be right. His "translations" from what is essentially gibberish, an amalgam of multiple languages, are themselves aspirational rather than being actual translations. In addition, the fundamental underlying argument=E2=80=94that there is such= a thing as one 'proto-Romance language'=E2=80=94is completely unsubstantiated and a= t odds with paleolinguistics. Finally, his association of particular glyphs with particular Latin letters is equally unsubstantiated. His work has never received true peer review, and its publication in this particular journal is no sign of peer confidence." Even the Journal of Romance Studies where it was published (Cheshire makes a big deal about it being peer-reviewed) now seems to have withdrawn his paper. It seems to be a kind of post-modernist literary theory journal, more comfortable with papers like "Beckett and French war propaganda", "Toward a progressive cosmopolitanism", "Gender, body, and archive in the work of Mariona Giner", and "Male nudity and trauma in Marc Recha=E2=80=99s= Pau i el seu germ=C3=A0 and Dies d=E2=80=99agost". There's a detailed example of Cheshire's (ahem!) 'translation' here: https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fcipherm= ysteries.com%2F2017%2F11%2F10%2Fgerard-cheshire-vulgar-latin-siren-call-pol= yglot&data=3D02%7C01%7CCLASSICS-L%40lsv.uky.edu%7Cfcc000e7d8e343e0069a0= 8d77ec0ac3c%7C2b30530b69b64457b818481cb53d42ae%7C0%7C1%7C637117238294141867= &sdata=3DQgHECdOpjj1Dw%2BUXJK4Kvno4rpUdGujhqKfuptNykfM%3D&reserved= =3D0 And a careful and thorough evisceration of Cheshire's theory in the following two links: https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fvoynich= portal.com%2F2019%2F05%2F07%2Fcheshire-recast%2F&data=3D02%7C01%7CCLASS= ICS-L%40lsv.uky.edu%7Cfcc000e7d8e343e0069a08d77ec0ac3c%7C2b30530b69b64457b8= 18481cb53d42ae%7C0%7C1%7C637117238294141867&sdata=3DNjYVpV2jKPyhY%2FJh8= Szk9SgUiO1r7uMYkuxtip6m278%3D&reserved=3D0 https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fvoynich= portal.com%2F2019%2F05%2F16%2Fcheshire-reprised%2F&data=3D02%7C01%7CCLA= SSICS-L%40lsv.uky.edu%7Cfcc000e7d8e343e0069a08d77ec0ac3c%7C2b30530b69b64457= b818481cb53d42ae%7C0%7C1%7C637117238294141867&sdata=3D9sxYHB98vUGwsLBIw= rqBg05edxVffTrHnVUrrpZ9qk8%3D&reserved=3D0 Mark D