Re: Ignace Meyerson cracks a joke, sort of

"DANIEL P. Tompkins" <[email protected]> Thu, 12 Dec 2019 13:48:35 -0500
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Glad to have this, Laval. Thanks very much, will check.

Gratefully,

Dan

On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 1:26 PM Laval Hunsucker <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Thanks, Dan .
>
> A quick reaction regarding that bit in your post :
>
> > . . .  le coup de ciseau du sculpteur individuel, sa statue sociale ?
>
> Reminds me, interestingly(?) enough -- if I may be so free, and switching
> here from one to (an)other genre(s) of the *beaux-arts* -- of a very
> recent  ( in _The new criterion_, December 2019 )  observation offered by
> the Harvard 'intellectual historian' James Hankins, in his discussion of
> the Louvre's currently running Leonardo exhibition, as follows :  "In the
> end, Leonardo=E2=80=99s art was less about the objects he created than ab=
out
> himself creating the objects." .   Something to think about at greater
> length ?
>
> For anyone  ( else )  interested, the  Hankins piece, "Being Leonardo", i=
s
> online at
> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fnewcr=
iterion.com%2Fissues%2F2019%2F12%2Fbeing-leonardo&amp;data=3D02%7C01%7CCLAS=
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shBVFLMrT3I9qiHyNAv%2BHfQHA%3D&amp;reserved=3D0
> .
>
>
> - Laval Hunsucker
>    Breukelen a.d. Vecht, Nederland
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 4:36 PM DANIEL P. Tompkins <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Ignace Meyerson, important interwar (and later) psychologist, was along
> > with Louis Gernet one of Pierre Vidal-Naquet's great influences - and
> then,
> > in his 50s, served under Vernant in the R=C3=A9sistance liberation of
> Toulouse,
> > editing the unit's newspaper. When Vernant is discussed in the USA, he'=
s
> > most often linked with structuralist anthropologist Claude L=C3=A9vi-St=
rauss:
> no
> > complaints about that, since both are major figures.  But it's remarkab=
le
> > that Meyerson, a longer term and arguably equally important influence,
> has
> > received far less attention.
> >
> > Vernant wrote a wonderful essay on Meyerson that appeared as introducti=
on
> > to a volume of Meyerson's writings and then re-appeared in Vernant,
> *Entre
> > myth et politique *(Paris, 1996).  Vernant calls Meyerson *un homme
> raide*,
> > but also reports a quasi-joke that is packed with meaning:
> >
> > Au cours d=E2=80=99une conversation de sociologie et de grammaire avec =
Granet,
> > Meyerson =C3=A9voquait un jour en disant sur un ton mi-s=C3=A9rieux, mi=
-plaisant :
> > =C2=AB Au fond, pour vous, le verbe est individuel, le nom social. =C2=
=BB
> > Faut-il dire que le faire est individuel, le fait social, le coup de
> ciseau
> > du sculpteur individuel, sa statue sociale ?
> >
> > En r=C3=A9alit=C3=A9, on ne peut s=C3=A9parer le faire du fait. [a few =
pages of
> > explanation follow]
> >
> > Dan
> >
>