Re: Indian monkey painting on Thera

Jennifer Margrison <[email protected]> Fri, 20 Dec 2019 11:10:56 +1100
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The Smithsonian Magazine also covered this:

 "Such cosmopolitan behavior probably wasn=E2=80=99t easy, but =E2=80=9Cour=
 ancestors were
interested in rare and exotic things, just as we are,=E2=80=9D Peter Franko=
pan, a
global history expert at Oxford University who wasn=E2=80=99t involved in t=
he
study, tells Whipple. =E2=80=9CLong-distance trade, and connections between=
 the
Mediterranean, Asia and the Indian Ocean are well attested, even in this
period, for high value, expensive objects.=E2=80=9D
A live langur from a far-flung locale would certainly fit that bill.
There=E2=80=99s even evidence from other archaeological finds supporting th=
e idea
that foreign monkeys might have made it to Greece: a fossilized skull
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On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 at 04:17, Ralph Hancock <[email protected]> wrote=
:

> From _New Scientist_, issue for 21/28 December 2019. Not sure how much of
> the text is visible to non-subscribers, so I'll give it here. The
> interesting picture should be visible, I think -- see first link below.
>
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>
> A Bronze Age painting on a Greek island shows a monkey from thousands of
> kilometres away in Asia. The finding suggests that ancient cultures
> separated by great distances were trading and exchanging ideas.
>
> The artwork is one of several wall paintings in a building at Akrotiri on
> the Greek island of Thera (Santorini) in the Aegean Sea. Akrotiri was a
> settlement of the Minoan civilisation in Bronze Age Greece that was burie=
d
> by ash from a volcanic eruption in around 1600 BC.
>
> Many of the paintings show monkeys, yet there were no monkeys in Greece a=
t
> the time. Most of the monkeys have been identified as Egyptian species li=
ke
> olive baboons. This makes sense because Egypt was in contact with the
> Minoan civilisation, which was spread across several Aegean islands.
> However, others were harder to identify.
>
> Marie Nicole Pareja at the University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia
> teamed up with primatologists to re-examine the mystery monkey paintings.
> One stood out. =E2=80=9CWhen they looked at this wall painting, they all =
straight
> away unambiguously said =E2=80=98that=E2=80=99s a langur=E2=80=99,=E2=80=
=9D says Pareja.
>
> The team has identified the monkey as a grey langur (Semnopithecus). As
> well as its distinctive fur, the monkey was depicted holding its tail in =
a
> characteristic S shape.
>
> Grey langurs live in southern Asia in what is now Nepal, Bhutan and India=
 =E2=80=93
> and particularly in the Indus Valley. During the Bronze Age, the region w=
as
> home to the Indus Valley Civilisation, one of the most important societie=
s
> of that time. Although it was past its peak, the Indus Valley Civilisatio=
n
> was still advanced for its time, with large cities and elaborate water
> supply systems.
>
> Somehow, the artist who painted the monkey picture must have seen a grey
> langur. But how?
>
> Did Minoan Greeks visit the Indus? =E2=80=9CI wouldn=E2=80=99t be surpris=
ed if someday in
> the future we found evidence for that kind of direct contact,=E2=80=9D sa=
ys Pareja,
> but right now there is none. It is also possible the visit was the other
> way round, but again there is no evidence.
>
> Instead, it may be that Greece and Indus were connected via Mesopotamia,
> another Bronze Age civilisation centred on what is now Iraq. Langurs may
> have been imported to Mesopotamia for menageries, where visiting Greeks s=
aw
> them.
>
> =E2=80=9CIt=E2=80=99s evidence of this far-reaching trade, these relation=
ships with these
> far-flung areas,=E2=80=9D says Pareja. Even in the Bronze Age, it seems t=
here was a
> lot of exchange between seemingly separate civilisations.
>
> Journal reference: Primates, DOI: 10.1007/s10329-019-00778-1
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> My own take on this is that there was already a trade in exotic pets
> brought to the west along what would later be called the Silk Road. We kn=
ow
> that this was already well established considerably later, in the 2nd
> century BC, thanks to the mosaic of the Indian Rose-Ringed Parakeet found
> at Pergamon. (It is a Rose-Ringed Parakeet, not an Alexandrine Parakeet a=
s
> wrongly restored, as can be seen from the surviving portion of the narrow
> pink and black neck ring -- Alexandrines have a broad pink patch here.) S=
ee
> link below.
>
> RH
>
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