Re: Navy SEAL finds no snowflakes among real undergraduate
"Szegedy-Maszak, Andrew" <[email protected]> Fri, 27 Dec 2019 17:11:41 +0000
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Thanks, Dan, for sharing this excellent essay. I posted it a few days ago o= n our vets' FB page, and the responses have been uniformly and enthusiastic= ally positive. As for CC, it's worth mentioning that he writes about studyi= ng and discussing the Iliad and Aristotle. Andrew Szegedy-Maszak Professor of Classical Studies Jane A. Seney Professor of Greek Wesleyan University Middletown, CT 06459 ph: 860.685.2065 fax: 860.685.2089 ________________________________ From: Classical Greek and Latin Discussion Group <[email protected]> o= n behalf of DANIEL P. Tompkins <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 12:07 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: [CLASSICS-L] Navy SEAL finds no snowflakes among real undergraduat= e Today's college students are receiving a heap of obloquy, often based on isolated and exaggerated accounts of what's really going on in universities. I read these accounts, weigh them against what I've observed since I began teaching 55 years ago, and realize they're mostly vicious and misguided. The general technique is to represent a single event as typical of life in the thousands of four-year institutions in the USA, without any effort at rigor. So, it's worthwhile to note this account by a 52 year old Navy SEAL who chose to attend Yale and was bowled over by what he saw: smart and industrious undergraduates, thoughtful about today's world. Worth a look. My Semester With the Snowflakes <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fgen.me= dium.com%2Fmy-semester-with-the-snowflakes-888285f0e662&data=3D02%7C01%= 7CCLASSICS-L%40LSV.UKY.EDU%7Ca178d15798694019d55f08d78aefd954%7C2b30530b69b= 64457b818481cb53d42ae%7C0%7C1%7C637130635062152601&sdata=3DOEYMddhdoftD= WPnWoYHp36%2Fe4zbg4yd%2B2nopNfxqzOA%3D&reserved=3D0> At 52, I was accepted to Yale as a freshman. The students I met there surprised me. <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fgen.me= dium.com%2Fmy-semester-with-the-snowflakes-888285f0e662&data=3D02%7C01%= 7CCLASSICS-L%40LSV.UKY.EDU%7Ca178d15798694019d55f08d78aefd954%7C2b30530b69b= 64457b818481cb53d42ae%7C0%7C1%7C637130635062152601&sdata=3DOEYMddhdoftD= WPnWoYHp36%2Fe4zbg4yd%2B2nopNfxqzOA%3D&reserved=3D0> I hear the term occasionally from buddies of mine who I love, they say things like; =93how are things up there with the liberal snowflakes?=94 Let me assure you, I have not met one kid who fits that description. None of the kids I=92ve met seem to think that they are =93special=94 any more t= han any other 18=9622-year-old. These kids work their asses off. I have asked a couple of them to help me with my writing. One young woman volunteered to help me by proof-reading my =93prose=94 and, for the record, I believe she = will be the President someday. ... It hit me that what I thought a =93safe space=94 meant, was not accurate. T= his young woman, the one who used the phrase, =93Safe Space=94 isn=92t scared o= f anything. She is a life-force of goodness and strength. She doesn=92t need anyone to provide a comfortable environment for her. What she meant by =93safe space=94 was that she was happy to be in an environment where diffi= cult subjects can be discussed openly, without the risk of disrespect or harsh judgement. This works both ways. What I mean is, this young woman was comfortable, in this University setting, wrestling with things like the Aristotelian idea of some humans being born as =93natural slaves.=94 She wa= s quite comfortable in that space. The question was, how comfortable was the 52-year-old white guy in that discussion? Did it make me uncomfortable? Yes. I=92m grateful for the discomfort. Thinking about things I don=92t understand or have, for most of my life, written off, is a good thing. Being uncomfortable is KEY in this world of ours... A very worthwhile contribution. Dan