Re: [Fwd: auto-translation]

Michele Cerulli <[email protected]> Tue, 20 Jan 2004 13:09:43 +0100
Newsgroups gmane.education.weblabs.webreports.uedesign
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Our policy here, with this regard is to translate tasks and activities how 
they are presented to pupils, plus we are translating all the reports 
produced collectively by the class, which are inserted in the plone using 
the login "Classe2A" (see 
http://www.weblabs.org.uk/wlplone/Members/Classe2A/my_reports/my_reports_index_html, 
the translations are marked as such in the description of the report). The 
translations are made by us researchers, and at the beginning of each 
translation there is written that it is a translated document, with a link 
to the original document, and a link to translation notes which are at the 
end of the document.
We are working at setting up a well oiled machinery allowing other 
researchers and students to see what is going on here, we still have to 
work on it, but the process at least started, in a couple of days the main 
activities brought forward till now will be translated.
Finally, I'd like to report on the fact that our pupils (without us 
requiring or mentioning it) prepared a presentation for their class, and 
prepared it in english; they prepared it as an activity of english 
classes...I think this somehow denounce their will to participate to the 
community. You can find their presentation here: 
http://www.weblabs.org.uk/wlplone/Members/Classe2A/my_reports/Report.2004-01-19.2746

Ciao, Michele



At 10.36 20/01/2004 +0000, Yishay Mor wrote:
>I agree. Especially in the case of the Swedish reports, which are unique, 
>and for which auto-translation is not an option.
>However, in other cases this might be less useful. We have kids in several 
>countries engaged in the same activity, and publishing frequently. An 
>example is the sequences topic, and the "guess my robot game" in 
>particular. Several groups are planned to start this activity soon (or 
>have already started it). In this activity, children will frequently 
>publish their challenge sequence or respond to others. The main elements 
>on the reports will be tt objects, which transcend language. What needs 
>translation is short accompanying comments, which would probably make 
>sense even if translated automatically. Perhaps an auto-translation tool 
>can be added to the game page template which is used for this activity?
>
>ylva fernaeus wrote:
>
>>One thing that is missing at the moment at that might help students
>>understanding eachother's projects better would be that we translate and
>>describe the activities that children engage in so that at least everyone
>>can understand what tasks/ideas the projects refer to.
>>
>>For instance, each webreport could contain a short text (written by the
>>teacher and translated to as many languages as possible) describing what the
>>task was.
>>
>>I think this could help a lot for instance for understanding projects such
>>as the ones produced by our swedish kids during the autumn.
>>
>>/ylva
>>
>>
>>
>
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