Re: [Fwd: auto-translation]

I, too, find autotranslation helpful even when the quality is low.

We do have the problem that none of these free services deals with
Greek, Swedish, or Bulgarian. I.e. it is only of use for translating
between English and Portuguese or Italian. (Though Greek seems to be in
progress at Systran where I think everyone gets the code.)

Personally I've been getting into the habit of using a Google feature
where I just right click on a page and select "Translate Page". Others
may want a button on the page.

Regarding which service is best:

Original:
SOMOS DA ESCOLA DE VALE MILHA=C7OS EM PORTUGAL. DAQUI FALA A RITALEXANDRA
E O GON=C7ALOTAVARES. QUANDO =C9 QUE COSTUMA ESTAR NO WEBLABS?

Google:
WE ARE OF THE SCHOOL OF VALLEY MILHA=C7OS IN PORTUGAL.  DAQUI SAYS to the
RITALEXANDRA And the GON=C7ALOTAVARES.  WHEN IT IS THAT COSTUMA TO BE IN
THE WEBLABS?

Babelfish:
WE ARE OF THE SCHOOL OF VALLEY MILHA=C7OS IN PORTUGAL. DAQUI SAYS to the
RITALEXANDRA And the GON=C7ALOTAVARES. WHEN IT IS THAT COSTUMA TO BE IN
THE WEBLABS?

Identical.

Note this translation is less helpful than typical. Doubters should try
translating some of the Web reports -- they are pretty readable.

Best,

-ken

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From: "Yishay Mor" <y.mor-xaKI+XbQf9Vaa/[email protected]>
To: "WebReports" <webreports-uedesign-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 10:46 AM
Subject: [Webreports-uedesign] [Fwd: auto-translation]


> Jesper suggested we open this issue up for everyone to comment on.
>
> In a nutshell, I suggested that there will be some kind of control on
> each page, which would send it to be translated by an automatic
service,
> such as google or bablefish.
> My suggestion was primarily based on the fact that I use these
services
> daily to read webreports written in other languages.
>
> Jesper doubted the quality of the translation, and thought that not
> linking to a service is better than linking to one that makes us look
bad.
>
> - Yishay
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: auto-translation
> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 11:20:10 +0000
> From: Yishay Mor <yishaym-pAvbn/[email protected]>
> Reply-To: y.mor-xaKI+XbQf9Vaa/[email protected]
> To: Jesper Holmberg <jesperh-auIyqT/[email protected]>
> CC: Gordon Simpson <g.simpson-xaKI+XbQf9Vaa/[email protected]>
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> We want to start having kids comment on each other's reports. Since
> everyone writes in their native languages, this means we need
> translation. The number of reports is already so large that manual
> translation of personal reports is not an option. IMHO, having a link
to
> a translation service is the least of possible evils. For short
reports
> it actually can be useful (I've tried it several times).
>
> How much of an issue is it to add a translation box, say, under the
> favourites? I think http://babelfish.altavista.com have a javascript
> snippet you simply cut & paste..
>
> best,
>
> - Yishay
>
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