Re: Too much shell-escaping

>>>>> "David" == David Kastrup <[email protected]> writes:

    David> Uwe Brauer <[email protected]> writes:

[snip]

    >> guys since you are now discussing the installation targets could you
    >> please change the (default) behaviour of packagedir, whose behaviour
    >> is wrong, as I wrote in an earlier message.

    David> Please be more specific.  I have now checked _all_ of your mails in
    David> the recent 1000 articles in this list, and the only one appearing
    David> remotely relevant would be
    David> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
    David> where you, however, play around with --with-lispdir and people point
    David> out in the followups that you seem to have ignored the instructions
    David> and are installing from within the XEmacs lisp tree.  No further reply
    David> was made by you and the thread petered out soon.

No, I mean  <[email protected]>
this is from Monday 7 of feb.


Here is want I said.

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Hello 

This is an issue which concerns both the auctex developement team and
the xemacs team, hence my double posting.

The default behaviour for a auctex installation using xemacs 
that is
./configure --with-xemacs=/usr/bin/xemacs

 has the result, that the files, which are generated by the make
 process, will be installed in 


infodir = ${packagedir}/info
lispdir = ${packagedir}/lisp
packagedir = /usr/share/xemacs21/xemacs-packages
auctexdir= ${lispdir}/auctex


I consider such a choice as *bad*.
First it will need root privileges, second it will install in the
directory where the _official_ xemacs pkg sits. 

So I suggest that the default value are: 

either the pkg directory is 
packagedir = /usr/share/xemacs21/site-packages

Which still would need root privileges or the value
is 
packagedir = ~/.xemacs/xemacs-packages.


It is true that the INSTALLATION file says something about how to set
the packagedir, that is to run
./configure --with-xemacs=/usr/bin/xemacs --with-packagedir=/DIR
but in any case, the *default* behaviour should not be the one mention
above. 

I suggest if 
./configure --with-xemacs=/usr/bin/xemacs
is executed, a message pops up saying, 

"you did not specify neither the packagedir nor the lispdir option".


Besides the package generated this way *does not* include a MANIFEST
file, so uninstall could be a little tricky, recall that the xemacs
are installed according to the structure 
/lisp/packagename
/man/packagename

But not

/packename/lisp
/packename/man 

In the letter deleting the packagename directory would delete the
installed files, in the former you have to go directory by
directory. So that is where a MANIFEST file comes in handy (posted a
while ago I simple function to delete the content of a 3rd party
package by reading the MANIFEST file)


I would appreciate any comments of the Xemacs development team on this
issue.

Thanks


Uwe Brauer


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