Re: CJK in (auctex)I18n

From: David Kastrup <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: CJK in (auctex)I18n
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 10:50:02 +0100

> > | There are several problems associated with editing non-English
> > | @TeX{} with GNU Emacs.  @TeX{} are usable for European (Latin,
> > | Cyrillic, Greek) based languages.
> >
> > I'm not sure `XEmacs --without-mule' is usable for European
> > based languages.
> 
> It is usable for 8bit encodings quite well, so it can cater for most
> of the European 8bit character sets, though only one at a time.  That
> is the reason that the unconditional inclusion of MULE into Emacs-20

Thank you for your information.  So, both of recent Emacs and
XEmacs have no problem for editing European Languages.  Above
text is unsuitable...

How about this:

| @TeX{} and Emacs are usable for European (Latin, Cyrillic,
| Greek) based languages.  Some @LaTeX{} packages and EmacsLisp
| are available for easy typesetting and editing European
| languages.

> > | For @acronym{CJK} (Chinese, Japanese, and Korean) language,
> > | @acronym{MULE, MULtilingual Enhancement to GNU Emacs} supported
> > | Emacsen are needed.  @acronym{MULE, MULtilingual Enhancement to
> > | GNU Emacs} is part of GNU Emacs from Emacs 20; XEmacs should be
> > | configured with @samp{--with-mule} option.  Special versions of
> > | @TeX{} are needed for @acronym{CJK}; ASCII p@TeX{} and NTT j@TeX{}
> > | for Japanese; H@LaTeX{} and k@TeX{} for Korean; and
> > | @acronym{CJK}-@LaTeX{} package for @acronym{CJK}.
> >
> > How does Chinese use TeX?  Is there TeX specialized for Chinese?
> 
> No idea.
> 
Please, Chinese user, give us an information.

> > I installed and tried CJK-LaTeX yesterday.  I think that the week
> > point is lack of information to CJK-LaTeX.  It works with Japanese,
> > but I couldn't find how to change font family.  I know this ML is
> > not for TeX and CJK-LaTeX.  The point is ,at the present point,
> > CJK-LaTeX can not substitute pTeX and jTeX.
> 
> It could well be that CJK-LaTeX is mostly intended for critical work:
> papers in English or other languages written by scholars _about_ works
> in Chinese.  I also seem to remember that there is a special Emacs
> mode by Werner Lemberg for inputting the CJK-LaTeX transcriptions.

And CJK-LaTeX is a powerful tool (and may be only solution) for
writing a text mixed Chinese, Japanese and Korean.

> > AFAIK, There is Unicode based TeX (Omega and Lambda).  But I don't
> > knwo how to run it on my computer.  Where to find them and their
> > information.  Is it still continued the development?
> 
> Omega is by now more or less developed by two separate small teams led
> by the original developers with one or two programmers on each team.
> Their interests have diverged, and in particular John Plaice,
> responsible for most of the code base, has pretty much lost interest.
> However, _both_ John and Yannis are hardly renowned for keeping the
> public involved, so the development of Omega, though leading to
> interesting talks at TeX conferences at times, is mostly uninteresting
> to the community.
> 
> There are format variants built on earlier released versions, and
> Giuseppe Bilotta maintains Aleph, a reasonably stable branch of Omega
> with eTeX extensions.

Okay.  Currently, we need not refer to Omaga and Aleph.

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