Re: Re: merge emacs-bidi into the main tree

On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 02:57:51PM +0200, Janusz S. Bień wrote:
> On Thu, 07 Aug 2003  [email protected] wrote:
> 
> I think the number of developers is a monotonic function of the number
> of users, and emacs-bidi is already usable!
> 
> The best way to widen the users base is to include emacs-bidi in
> popular Linux distributions. Therefore I would like to draw your attention to 
> the Debian package which I descovered just today.
> 
> It is available at
> 
> http://www.pipapo.org/www/www/Files/emacsbidi

$ grep emacs /etc/apt/sources.list 
# bidi emacs
deb http://www.pipapo.org/www/www/Files/emacsbidi ./

I figured I am not an addicted emacs user, but being a debian user makes
me the perfect test-subject for the package

> 
> and can be installed in the standard way with apt-get,
> aptitude etc.
> 
> Here is its description:
> 
>  Package: emacsbidi
>  Version: 0.9-1
>  Section: editors
>  Priority: optional
>  Architecture: i386
>  Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.1-1), libjpeg62, libncurses5 (>= 5.3.20021109-1), xlibs (>> 4.1.0)
>  Conflicts: emacs20,emacs20-dl,emacs21,emacsen-common,emacs21-common,emacs-intl-fonts
>  Installed-Size: 79084
>  Maintainer: Ayman Negm <[email protected]>
>  Description: GNU Emacs with Arabic, Hebrew support
>   Emacs-bidi it support UTF-8 and bidi language like
>   Arabic, Persian and  Hebrew. It's based on  GNU Emacs21.
>   This is a development version and not the official release.
>   Please read http://www.m17n.org/emacs-bidi/index.html.
> 
> I haven't tested it, because it is the *replacement* for the standard
> Gnu Emacs package. An obvious wishlist is to allow emacsbidi to
> coexist piecefully with other Emacsen, as it is the case with emacs 20
> and emacs 21.

~# apt-get install emacsbidi
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  emacs-intl-fonts emacs20 emacs21 emacs21-common emacsen-common
  hyperlatex junior-programming junior-writing python-elisp x-symbol xemacs21
  xemacs21-bin xemacs21-gnome-nomule xemacs21-mule xemacs21-support
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  emacsbidi

Not just gnu emacs. xemacs as well. why??? 
And why is this fonts package being removed?

What the heck. I'll live without an emacs for a while...

Installed...

Oops... I can't figure out how to set up Hebrew font. 
Can't see any emacs-bidi-specific documentation in the package. E.g.:
http://www.m17n.org/emacs-bidi/index.html as it is.

Tried:

  emacsbidi -fn heb8x13

And typed some Hebrew chars using the X winodws's Hebrew keyboard. No
bidi rendering sighted.

Using c-u c-\ for the input method: still no bidi rendering.

A change of font:

 emacsbidi -fn '-misc-fixed-*-iso10646-1'

And still no bidi for me.

What am I missing?

Do I really need special per-user settings? Can they be done
system-wide? Are there any sane defaultsthat could be given by the
package?

> 
> Thanks to official ITP (Intend to Package,
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?archive=no&bug=184831),
> there is a chance that emacsbidi will be included in the future
> official Debian distribution.

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