Re: [GNU ELPA] New package: caffeinate-mode

Stéphane Marks <[email protected]>
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On Sun, Jul 19, 2026 at 2:49 PM Lucas Christian <[email protected]> wrote:

> Stéphane Marks <[email protected]> writes:
>
> > As the author of system-sleep, I specifically didn't add such a mode
> > because the intention was never to replace O/S utility calls that
> > affect the entire system but to allow long-running Emacs operations to
> > declare (via hooks or other in-built policies) they want the system to
> > remain awake.  e.g., when running M-x compile, one could in a
> > compilation-mode-hook declare a stay-awake policy.
>
> I am curious how you see these integrations developing over time. My
> first use case (before writing this mode), was actually to hook it into
> gnus (similar use case to what the gnus manual previously suggested
> people do with the dbus package).

Would system-sleep just be there and the user would be expected to wire
> it up themselves (using advices, hooks, etc.)? Or would you expect
> packages begin to ship built-in integrations as a standard feature?
>
> There are many cases where it might be a nice bit of "batteries
> included", but I imagine some could be controversial, e.g. I may not
> want every workflow I run in M-x compile today to block sleep.
>

One integration has already been done. Take a look at
https://github.com/emacs-mirror/emacs/blob/0f086c307c12b74aeedfba07cfe5b57ef2f99808/lisp/gnus/gnus-start.el#L817
to see how it should look for other integrations.

> > Separately, an optional mode-line system sleep indicator could be
> > useful but that seems separate to your package and would provide a
> > touch more utility across system-sleep estate that doesn't leverage
> > caffeinate.
>
> The goal of this would be to indicate any time some system-sleep
> consumer within Emacs is blocking sleep?
>

Yes.  A visual indication that sleep is inhibited by one or more blockers
would be a good first start.
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