Re: [NonGNU] new: hermes

On 2026-08-07 23:45, Thanos Apollo wrote:
> Jean Louis <[email protected]> writes:
> 
>> Let's not forget that Hermes is used only by small percentage of users
>> running fully free LLMs on their computers
> 
> Do you have a source for this claim?

Yeah, sure, look at their website:
https://hermes-agent.nousresearch.com/docs/user-guide/configuring-models

What gets written to config.yaml

When you save via the dashboard, Hermes writes to ~/.hermes/config.yaml:

Main model:

model:
   provider: openrouter (remote API)
   default: anthropic/claude-opus-4.7 (non-local very proprietary LLM)
   base_url: ''        # cleared on provider switch
   api_mode: chat_completions

The Hermes Agent website shows how to configure remote commercial LLMs 
like Anthropic's Claude Opus via OpenRouter as the main model.

And just see the website: https://hermes-agent.nousresearch.com/ -- the 
sole purpose of Hermes agent is that user can "choose a plan" within the 
"Nous Portal" where all paid tiers include monthly credits for use in 
Hermes Agent, access to 300+ cutting-edge models and built-in tool use.

The architecture and primary use case of Hermes Agent are geared towards 
cloud deployment and API usage, making it a mainstream platform rather 
than a niche tool for local-only free models.

It is not exclusively for Service as a Software Substitute LLM users.

Yet, the data shows that Service a a Software Substitute LLM users 
dominate the volume statistics.

Look here: 
https://www.kucoin.com/news/flash/nous-research-s-hermes-agent-processes-1-5-trillion-tokens-on-openrouter-in-august-2026

Where it says: "on-chain news from early August 2026 shows Nous 
Research’s Hermes Agent processed 1.5 trillion tokens on OpenRouter, 
nearly equaling the combined usage of 49 other tracked apps. Since its 
March 2026 token launch news, the agent has used 33.1 trillion tokens, 
ranking first in OpenRouter’s global daily rankings. Hermes Agent uses 
407 models and 40+ tools, including Hermes 4 70B and Hermes 4 405B. 
OpenRouter’s tracking shows agentic workflows now dominate token 
consumption.

Thus the primary use of Hermes agent and your Emacs package as client to 
that Hermes agent is to access remote APIs, whereby users are to use 
service as a software substitute LLMs.

While Hermes Agent can be run locally, its development, documentation, 
and promotional materials are overwhelmingly geared toward a "service as 
a software substitute" (SaaSS) model, which centralizes control with the 
service provider and denies users agency over their own computing.

By promoting Hermes Agent, the GNU project would be endorsing a system 
that normalizes dependency on non-free network services, undermining the 
very principles of freedom and self-determination it was founded to 
protect.

I think that package should be in non-GNU ELPA, rather than in ELPA.

-- 
Jean Louis