Re: [NonGNU] new: hermes

Eli Zaretskii <[email protected]> Tue, 11 Aug 2026 14:21:02 +0300
Newsgroups gmane.emacs.devel
Message-ID <[email protected]>
> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2026 07:55:15 +0300
> From: Jean Louis <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]
> 
> Okay, Eli. Please confirm if I’m wrong: are you saying that users can
> exit the installation process by pressing Ctrl+C? I believe they can.
> 
> You are not saying that "Ctrl+C" is the way to skip registration on
> their SaaS LLM portal.
> 
> Feel free to correct me.

You are wrong.  The phrase "Let's configure your installation" means
the program is already installed, and the following procedure will
configure the installed program.  It does NOT mean that the configure
step configures the installation process which has not yet begun.

When I say "with my Emacs installation I see such-and-such behavior",
I allude to the behavior of Emacs that is already installed, not the
process of its installation.  Same here.

So if you understood the banner as telling you that the installation
has not yet begun, it's a misunderstanding: the installation is
already complete, and the next step is to configure the package which
was just installed.

Thus, if you interrupt that configuration, the package is installed,
but not configured to use the LLMs which you might not want to use.

> Even if they can skip registration on their SaaS LLM portal, Ctrl+C in
> the terminal has a long-established meaning: it sends a SIGINT signal,
> asking the program to break execution.

Yes, and "the program" in this case is the "configuration wizard",
i.e. a tool that guides you through the registration process and the
rest of the configuration stage.  Ergo, if you interrupt it, there
will be no registration.

IOW, it's the same as if some site unexpectedly asks you for
registration or money or some private information, and you click on
the "Cancel" button or that top-right button which says "x", which
closes the dialog -- you abort whatever was about to happen.

> In any case, Hermes doesn't say to user that it is possible to skip
> the SaaS LLM registration on their portal.

Yes, it does, see the above and the banner it shows.

> It would be misleading to say it is "easy" to skip the SaaS LLM by
> pressing Ctrl+C, especially since this was never announced during the
> installation process.
> 
> Pressing Ctrl+C in the Hermes installer aborts the entire
> installation—it does not offer a documented path to continue with a
> local-only setup while skipping the portal registration.

I think you made these conclusions based on misunderstanding of what
the banner says and means.