Re: hs-hide-block-behavior

Johan Myréen [10/Aug  7:28pm +03] wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Aug 2026 at 18:12, Juri Linkov <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> I consider the following definition of the cursor
>> from (info "(emacs) Glossary") to be authoritative:
>>
>> Cursor
>>      The cursor is the rectangle on the screen which indicates the
>>      position (called point; q.v.) at which insertion and deletion takes
>>      place.  The cursor is on or under the character that follows point.
>>      Often people speak of "the cursor" when, strictly speaking, they
>>      mean "point".
>>
>
> Yes, the job of the cursor is to indicate the position of the insertion (or
> deletion) point. The point is between two characters, marked by the left
> edge of the cursor (when using a left to right writing system). A character
> is inserted at point, a backward delete command deletes the character
> before the point, and a forward delete deletes the character after point.
>
> So when the Customization UI provides a choice whose title is
>> "Hide the block after cursor", this looks fine from the user's
>> perspective.  OTOH, it also makes sense to name the symbol 'after-point'.
>>
>
> Here's the problem: "after cursor" can be taken to mean what is to the
> right of the cursor, i.e. what comes after the right edge of the (block)
> cursor (again assuming a left to right writing system). This is in
> contradiction with both the quote from the glossary above and the paragraph
> from the Elisp manual I quoted two days ago.
>
> The terms "after point" and "after cursor" seem to be treated as synonyms
> in this discussion, which I strongly disagree with, for the reason I have
> given above. If, on the other hand, "after cursor" should in fact be
> interpreted to mean "after the left edge of the cursor taking up the whole
> width of the character cell" then that is clear as mud, IMO.

Thanks, I agree that 'cursor' is confusing for these sorts of reasons,
in addition to not being standard Emacs terminology.  Now changed on the
release branch.

-- 
Sean Whitton