Re: [NonGNU ELPA] New package: project-store

Lin Jian <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.emacs.devel
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Stéphane Marks <[email protected]> writes:

> I think project-store is not that useful and won't aid discovery.

Do you have a suggestion for the name?

> I am aware of Nix and Guix but I don't think of them as "stores" of
> anything.

I am afraid people who know Nix/Guix but do not know Nix/Guix store are
not the targeted users.  So it does not make much sense to optimize
anything for them, not to say the very important project name.

FYI, there is a "Nix Store" section in the Nix Reference Manual.  You
can find its URL in the project-store.el file.

FYI, there is a "The Store"[1] section in the GNU Guix Reference Manual.
It is the first result in my web search for "guix store".  I put its
link below in case your web search misses it.

[1]: https://guix.gnu.org/manual/devel/en/guix.html#The-Store

> When I do a web search for "project store" I get nothing useful

That is reasonable because:

- Without context, which is the case when your just do a web search for
  "project store", you probably won't get useful results.
- I am not sure what your expected results are.  But if you want to find
  my project-store, please note that it was made public just a few days
  ago.  Even if you do a web search with the hyphen between these two
  words, without SEO (which I have no motivation to do), you probably
  still won't find it.

> and when I search for Nix store, I get "Nix Package Search" but it
> doesn't say "store" and also an actual retail store "Nix & Nax Pop-Up
> Shop". 

My web search for "nix store" gives a satisfied result:

- Of all 13 web page links and 3 video links in the first page, only one
  link is irrelevant.  That one is "NixOS search - Packages" and it is
  ranked 2nd.
- The "Nix Store" section of Nix Reference Manual is ranked 4 or 6.
- The first link is "How Nix Works"
  https://nixos.org/guides/how-nix-works, which is quite useful.

Web search sites are different.

It is difficult to optimize for web search results: even a key concept
"store" of a large project "Nix" is not easy to find using some search
sites.

But all of these are not quite relevant to how to name an Emacs package.
Doing a web search for an Emacs package is what I call "without context"
above.  You did not even include "Emacs" in your search terms.  What I
call "with context" is to search popular ELPAs for Emacs packages,
either using their websites or using using `list-packages' in Emacs.  I
call them "with context" because:

- All search results are Emacs packages.
- You can easily see package names and brief descriptions.
- Bonus: you can search words from both names and brief descriptions.

I think with the current name and brief description, it is easy to
discover this package if you search it with context.
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