Re: [NonGNU ELPA] New package: project-store

Stéphane Marks <[email protected]> writes:

> On Sun, Aug 16, 2026 at 3:44 AM Philip Kaludercic <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Lin Jian <[email protected]> writes:
>>
>> > Philip Kaludercic <[email protected]> writes:
>> >
>> >> A web search is just a heuristic for what the average understanding is
>> >> of a term.  As we have said, we won't override your decision if you
>> >> insist on the name, I'd just like to make sure that you understood the
>> >> points of view that Stéphane and I are raising, as I am under the
>> >> impression that there might have been a misunderstanding.
>> >
>> > I totally get your reasoning to prefer project-nix-store over
>> > project-store.  I think it is reasonable.  But due to other things I
>> > mentioned before, I decide to still use project-store.  Each of these
>> > two names has pros and cons.  No one is clearly better than the other.
>> >
>> > However, I do not quite get what name Stéphane suggests.  So I asked.  I
>> > do not think Stéphane suggests project-nix-store because many of
>> > Stéphane's arguments for not using project-store also apply to
>> > project-nix-store.  Based on Stéphane's web search results of "nix
>> > store", I guess Stéphane's web search results of "project nix store"
>> > won't be satisfactory.
>>
>> I wasn't assuming that Stéphane suggests the same name, but perhaps
>> let's let him respond.
>>
>> > I also do not quite get Stéphane's reasoning.  If people want to know
>> > what an *Emacs package* project-store does, shouldn't they refer to its
>> > doc?  Why do a web search, without even adding *Emacs* to the search
>> > terms?
>>
>> My best guess is that if you are you are looking through a list of
>> package names, e.g. if you are using M-x package-install and just
>> looking at the completion suggestions, you wouldn't guess what the
>> package is about just from the name, or could even misinterpret what it
>> is about since "store" is rather generic.  This is not to say that this
>> is a fatal situation, just that it might trip up some users.
>>
>
> How about the namespace "project-nix" and elide "store" entirely to keep it
> short?  That Nix/Guix are colloquially called "stores" by some is not the
> detail that matters for this package, IMO.  The first link I get when I
> Google nix store is https://search.nixos.org/packages which doesn't even
> mention the word store anywhere.  I'm aware that Nix supports several kinds
> of "stores" and using the word store in the package might suggest support
> for them all; e.g., the http binary cache, the s3 binary cache, etc.  Even
> "project-nix-local" would be more precise if you intend to support only
> that store.

I think this is also a good idea!

> As ELPA is considered a part of Emacs, I think it is a collectively good
> thing that package names are well chosen and to avoid potential conflicts
> in the future.

Right, that was my concern as well.