Re: [NonGNU ELPA] New package: project-store

Lin Jian <[email protected]> writes:

> Philip Kaludercic <[email protected]> writes:
>
>> If we want to
>> continue this discussion, we ought to do so on emacs-tangents.
>
> I am not quite sure what discussion you mean and why.

I was under the impression that this was diverging to a general
conversation about naming, but nevermind ^^

>>> IMHO, project-store, together with its brief description, is very clear.
>>
>> This is ultimately the reason why we don't want to insist on maintainers
>> changing the names of their packages if they have strong opinions to the
>> contrary.
>>
>
> Good to know.
>
>> But still: I asked a few friends who use Nix about what their
>> association with the word "store" is an if they would think of "Nix",
>> and nobody said they think it is intuitive.  Generally, "project-store"
>> seems to either be interpreted as "project-shop" (noun) or
>> "project-save" (verb).  I think the argument with Guix is also not that
>> strong, since the compatibility with Guix is coincidental, rather than
>> inherent.  It is really project support for "Nix stores" or anything
>> that behaves similarly.
>>
>> A name is part of the public advertisement of a package, and (some of
>> us) appreciate having a name have a standalone meaning -- without the
>> help of a description.  While usually the issue is with project names
>> being too quirky, the other direction is also tricky.  I have witnessed
>> this myself with my "setup" package, where people have complained
>> numerous times that it is too generic, but that is also not the same
>> name as with your package, if we are being fair.
>>
>> This is not to say that we have to change the name, but just to argue
>> the point that it doesn't seem like a _good_ name.
>
> This, your previous arguments for project-nix-store and Nix users I
> asked make me prefer project-nix-store over project-store now.  Together
> with the renaming, I will modify the brief description to "Project
> backend for Nix-like store" to suggest that it supports more than just
> Nix store.
>
> If it is not too late, I am fine with renaming it from project-store to
> project-nix-store.  Sorry for the extra work.
>
> If it is too late, I am also fine with the current name.

Oh, this is surprising but nice to hear!  We should be able to still
change the package name, IIUC the only inconvenience would come to users
who have something like (use-package project-store :ensure t) in their
config, as they will have to rename it.  Just to be sure, I hope that
Stefan can second this or perhaps add a word of caution.  If my
estimation is correct, the earlier we change the name the better because
fewer people will have assumed the current name.