Re: Listenbrainz: no permanent storage of items

Igor Sosa Mayor <[email protected]> Sat, 29 Nov 2025 20:59:20 +0100
Newsgroups gmane.emacs.emms.user
Message-ID <[email protected]>
thanks!

On 11/29/25 20:50, Fran Burstall (Gmail) wrote:
> I have updated emms-listenbrainz-scrobbler.el to include a check on 
> activation that emms-playing-mode is active.
> 
> Probably the same change should be made to emms-librefm-scrobbler.el.
> 
> ---Fran
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, 24 Nov 2025 at 10:04, Fran Burstall <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
>     I am sure that this is the solution.
> 
>     I will update the library to explicitly require and activate emms-
>     playing-time-mode.
> 
>     ---Fran
> 
>     --
> 
> 
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     *From:* Igor Sosa Mayor <[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>>
>     *Sent:* Monday, November 24, 2025 8:11:51 AM
>     *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>     <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>     *Cc:* emms-help mailing list <[email protected] <mailto:emms-
>     [email protected]>>
>     *Subject:* Re: Listenbrainz: no permanent storage of items
>     Hi Fran,
> 
>     I think I found the problem.
> 
>     I am not using emms-all, but I load the modules myself. If I look at
>     the
>     definition of emms-all I see there is
> 
>     (emms-playing-time-mode 1)
> 
>     which I had commented out in my own setup.
> 
>     This sould be the solution (but now listenbrainz.org <http://
>     listenbrainz.org> is down and I can
>     not test it...).
> 
>     Many thanks for your help.
> 
>     Best,
> 
>     --- Igor
> 
>     On 11/23/25 23:36, Fran Burstall (Gmail) wrote:
>       >       (why is this necessary?)
>       >
>       >
>       > The api places these restrictions on the submission (at least, I
>     think
>       > it does---cannot find a reference right now).
>       >
>       > Now we know how things are failing, let us try to understand why.
>       >
>       > 1.  While a track is playing, what is the value of emms-playing-
>     time?
>       > 2. What does (emms-track-get (emms-playlist-current-selected-track)
>       > 'info-playing-time) return?
>       >
>       > I am going off the air now but will get back on this tomorrow in
>     about
>       > 20 hours.
>       >
>       > ---Fran
>       >
>       >
>       >
>       > On Sun, 23 Nov 2025 at 22:13, Igor Sosa Mayor
>       > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>     <mailto:[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>       >
>       >     I think I found the problem (or the source of the
>     problem...). I
>     made a
>       >     simplified version of your code:
>       >
>       >     (defun emms-listenbrainz-scrobbler-stop-hook ()
>       >         "Submit the track to listenbrainz if we have listened long
>     enough.
>       >
>       >     That is, if it has been played for 240 seconds or half the
>     length of
>       >     the
>       >     track."
>       >         (let ((current-track (emms-playlist-current-selected-
>     track)))
>       >           (emms-listenbrainz-scrobbler-make-async-submission-call
>       >                 current-track)))
>       >
>       >     Removing the code about the length (why is this necessary?) and
>     now it
>       >     is working. But still I do not understand why this is
>     happening.
>     Maybe
>       >     because of this?
>       >
>       >             (when (and track-length
>       >                       ;; only submit files
>       >                       (eq (emms-track-type current-track) 'file))
>       >
>       >     --- Igor
>       >
>       >
>       >     On 11/23/25 23:04, Fran Burstall (Gmail) wrote:
>       >      > I wonder if there is something else in the finished hook
>     that
>     fails
>       >      > ahead the call to the scrobbler?  What is the value of
>     emms-player-
>       >      > finished-hook?
>       >      >
>       >      > However, that would not explain the empty failed process
>     buffers:
>       >     does
>       >      > one of these appear after every scrobble attempt?
>       >      >
>       >      > To see if it is the hook that fails, execute
>       >      >
>       >      > (emms-listenbrainz-scrobbler-make-async-submission-call
>     (emms-
>       >     playlist-
>       >      > current-selected-track))
>       >      >
>       >      > and see if that records a scrobble.  For me, it does most
>     of the
>       >     time
>       >      > but, during testing today, it has failed 4 times leaving
>     a failed
>       >      > process buffer.
>       >      >
>       >      > ---Fran
>       >      >
>       >      >
>       >      >
>       >      > On Sun, 23 Nov 2025 at 21:37, Igor Sosa Mayor
>       >      > <[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>
>     <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>       >     <mailto:[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>
>       >     <mailto:[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>>>> wrote:
>       >      >
>       >      >
>       >      >      > and let me know what appears in the message buffer
>     when
>       >     you try
>       >      >     to scrobble.
>       >      >
>       >      >     Exactly the same.
>       >      >
>       >      >     I have the impression the finished-hook is not called...
>       >      >
>       >      >     In the buffer URl-Debug I get the following (token
>     removed
>       >     obviously),
>       >      >     but only after starting the track.
>       >      >
>       >      > https://paste.rs/8Vl5n.txt <https://paste.rs/8Vl5n.txt>
>     <https://paste.rs/8Vl5n.txt <https://paste.rs/8Vl5n.txt>> <https://
>       > paste.rs/8Vl5n.txt <http://paste.rs/8Vl5n.txt> <https://
>     paste.rs/8Vl5n.txt <https://paste.rs/8Vl5n.txt>>>
>       >      >
>       >      >     After finishing there are no new messages logged.
>       >      >
>       >      >     But why should a hook not be triggered?
>       >      >
>       >      >     Thanks again.
>       >      >
>       >      >     --- Igor
>       >      >
>       >
> 
> 
>     On 11/23/25 23:36, Fran Burstall (Gmail) wrote:
>     >       (why is this necessary?) 
>     > 
>     > 
>     > The api places these restrictions on the submission (at least, I think 
>     > it does---cannot find a reference right now).
>     > 
>     > Now we know how things are failing, let us try to understand why.
>     > 
>     > 1.  While a track is playing, what is the value of emms-playing-time?
>     > 2. What does (emms-track-get (emms-playlist-current-selected-track) 
>     > 'info-playing-time) return?
>     > 
>     > I am going off the air now but will get back on this tomorrow in about 
>     > 20 hours.
>     > 
>     > ---Fran
>     > 
>     > 
>     > 
>     > On Sun, 23 Nov 2025 at 22:13, Igor Sosa Mayor 
>     > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>     <mailto:[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>     > 
>     >     I think I found the problem (or the source of the problem...). I made a
>     >     simplified version of your code:
>     > 
>     >     (defun emms-listenbrainz-scrobbler-stop-hook ()
>     >         "Submit the track to listenbrainz if we have listened long enough.
>     > 
>     >     That is, if it has been played for 240 seconds or half the length of
>     >     the
>     >     track."
>     >         (let ((current-track (emms-playlist-current-selected-track)))
>     >           (emms-listenbrainz-scrobbler-make-async-submission-call
>     >                 current-track)))
>     > 
>     >     Removing the code about the length (why is this necessary?) and now it
>     >     is working. But still I do not understand why this is happening. Maybe
>     >     because of this?
>     > 
>     >             (when (and track-length
>     >                       ;; only submit files
>     >                       (eq (emms-track-type current-track) 'file))
>     > 
>     >     --- Igor
>     > 
>     > 
>     >     On 11/23/25 23:04, Fran Burstall (Gmail) wrote:
>     >      > I wonder if there is something else in the finished hook that fails
>     >      > ahead the call to the scrobbler?  What is the value of emms-player-
>     >      > finished-hook?
>     >      >
>     >      > However, that would not explain the empty failed process buffers:
>     >     does
>     >      > one of these appear after every scrobble attempt?
>     >      >
>     >      > To see if it is the hook that fails, execute
>     >      >
>     >      > (emms-listenbrainz-scrobbler-make-async-submission-call (emms-
>     >     playlist-
>     >      > current-selected-track))
>     >      >
>     >      > and see if that records a scrobble.  For me, it does most of the
>     >     time
>     >      > but, during testing today, it has failed 4 times leaving a failed
>     >      > process buffer.
>     >      >
>     >      > ---Fran
>     >      >
>     >      >
>     >      >
>     >      > On Sun, 23 Nov 2025 at 21:37, Igor Sosa Mayor
>     >      > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>     <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>     >     <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>     >     <mailto:[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>>>> wrote:
>     >      >
>     >      >
>     >      >      > and let me know what appears in the message buffer when
>     >     you try
>     >      >     to scrobble.
>     >      >
>     >      >     Exactly the same.
>     >      >
>     >      >     I have the impression the finished-hook is not called...
>     >      >
>     >      >     In the buffer URl-Debug I get the following (token removed
>     >     obviously),
>     >      >     but only after starting the track.
>     >      >
>     >      > https://paste.rs/8Vl5n.txt <https://paste.rs/8Vl5n.txt> <https://
>     paste.rs/8Vl5n.txt <https://paste.rs/8Vl5n.txt>> <https://
>     >     paste.rs/8Vl5n.txt <http://paste.rs/8Vl5n.txt> <https://
>     paste.rs/8Vl5n.txt <https://paste.rs/8Vl5n.txt>>>
>     >      >
>     >      >     After finishing there are no new messages logged.
>     >      >
>     >      >     But why should a hook not be triggered?
>     >      >
>     >      >     Thanks again.
>     >      >
>     >      >     --- Igor
>     >      >
>     > 
>