Re: bug#29108: 25.3; ERC SASL support

Akib Azmain Turja <[email protected]> Wed, 09 Nov 2022 23:50:28 +0600
Newsgroups	gmane.emacs.erc.general
Message-ID	<[email protected]>
"J.P." <[email protected]> writes:

> Hi Akib,
>
> Akib Azmain Turja <[email protected]> writes:
>
>> What's special about November 12th?
>
> It's just some arbitrary date.
>
> But ...
>
> you can make it somewhat special by volunteering to review some patches
> ASAP, which I'll then try to improve upon by said date (or thereabouts).
>
> Also, I've been trying to get a hold of you regarding another bug:

Just out of curiosity, why me?  Is it because I use pass?

>
>   https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=58985

Hmm, looks like I was CC'ed, but I didn't notice.  :(
I will try to review the patches.

Yeah, auth-source-pass is indeed just a hack, a terrible one.  I needed
to apply a few advices on that auth-source-pass make it work at least
reasonably well for me uses.

Fix auth-source-pass will require the existing API of it (which the
Emacs package "pass" uses) and may even need complete rewrite.

But Adam Porter (CC'ing), the maintainer of ement.el (available on GNU
ELPA), a Matrix client, claims that auth-source is from the dark side[1]
and refused to support it claiming it's not suitable for general use[2].

>
> Based on your email to the devel mailing list, it seems you have some
> experience (or at least opinions and interest) in that area. Please take
> a look if you haven't already, and then volunteer to help get some
> improvements in tree before Emacs 29 is cut.

Thanks for the reminder, otherwise I would have just missed that
discussion.

Anyway, when the Emacs 29 branch is going to cut?  I have some changes
(semantic highlighting of code) waiting to merge to Eglot (now in core)
for about six months.  I have got the paperwork to sign about ten days
ago, but due to some (personal) problems it's taking some time to sign
it.  I really want to make it into Emacs 29, instead of 30.

>
> Also, I've noticed someone on Libera with the nick akib pop into #erc on
> occasion. Please don't hesitate to say hi if that was in fact you.

Yeah, that's indeed me.

>
> Thanks,
> J.P.
>
>
>


Footnotes:
[1]  https://libreddit.de/r/emacs/comments/8lvda6/is_authsource_from_the_dark_side/
     https://old.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/8lvda6/is_authsource_from_the_dark_side/

[2]  https://github.com/alphapapa/ement.el/issues/109

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