Re: bug#29108: 25.3; ERC SASL support

On 11/10/22 15:50, J.P. wrote:
> Adam Porter <[email protected]> writes:
> 
>> On 11/9/22 23:28, J.P. wrote:
>>
>>> Akib Azmain Turja <[email protected]> writes:
>>
>>>> But Adam Porter (CC'ing), the maintainer of ement.el (available on GNU
>>>> ELPA), a Matrix client, claims that auth-source is from the dark side[1]
>>>> and refused to support it claiming it's not suitable for general use[2].
>>
>> Please note: I did not expect to be mentioned in this way here.  It's not my
>> intention to speak poorly of others' software, especially in public.  In the
>> Reddit post I made, I tried to be objective and show the problems clearly with
>> code examples.
> 
> That's certainly the impression I got, and I regret not having said as
> much sooner. Sorry you had to burn cycles on a dignified defense. At the
> same time, I'm hopeful folks will find the restraint to chalk this up to
> a teachable moment and attribute Akib's bit of ambush editorializing
> (something I myself have been guilty of over the years) to the angst of
> youth or a moment of weakness, both potential engines of productivity
> when channeled in a more positive direction.

Agreed, thanks.

>> And that is merely my opinion, of course, based on the shortcomings I noted
>> (e.g. the lack of API to update a secret, the undocumented error-handling
>> signals, etc).  I expect that, were I to use it in my software, I would end up
>> working around these problems and answering users' support questions about
>> them; and since I don't use it myself, either, it doesn't seem like a good
>> idea to do so.
>>
>> Nevertheless, it's clearly used by a number of people and third-party packages
>> that integrate with it, so take my opinion of it with a grain of salt.  If it
>> seems useful to you, by all means, use it.
> 
> Thanks for your work on Emacs.

Thanks for the kind words.