bug#29108: 25.3; ERC SASL support

Hi Akib,

On 11/10/22 23:56, Akib Azmain Turja wrote:
> "J.P." <[email protected]> writes:
> 
>> Adam Porter <[email protected]> writes:
>>
>>> On 11/9/22 23:28, J.P. wrote:
>>>
>>>> Akib Azmain Turja <[email protected]> writes:
>>>
>>>>> But Adam Porter (CC'ing), the maintainer of ement.el (available on GNU
>>>>> ELPA), a Matrix client, claims that auth-source is from the dark side[1]
>>>>> and refused to support it claiming it's not suitable for general use[2].
>>>
>>> Please note: I did not expect to be mentioned in this way here.  It's not my
>>> intention to speak poorly of others' software, especially in public.  In the
>>> Reddit post I made, I tried to be objective and show the problems clearly with
>>> code examples.
>>
>> That's certainly the impression I got, and I regret not having said as
>> much sooner. Sorry you had to burn cycles on a dignified defense. At the
>> same time, I'm hopeful folks will find the restraint to chalk this up to
>> a teachable moment and attribute Akib's bit of ambush editorializing
>> (something I myself have been guilty of over the years) to the angst of
>> youth or a moment of weakness, both potential engines of productivity
>> when channeled in a more positive direction.
> 
> I'm extremely sorry, I didn't actually wanted to give that impression.
> Please forgive me.

Again, no apology is necessary.  :)

>>> And that is merely my opinion, of course, based on the shortcomings I noted
>>> (e.g. the lack of API to update a secret, the undocumented error-handling
>>> signals, etc).  I expect that, were I to use it in my software, I would end up
>>> working around these problems and answering users' support questions about
>>> them; and since I don't use it myself, either, it doesn't seem like a good
>>> idea to do so.
>>>
>>> Nevertheless, it's clearly used by a number of people and third-party packages
>>> that integrate with it, so take my opinion of it with a grain of salt.  If it
>>> seems useful to you, by all means, use it.
> 
> Your works are awesome, thank you much for the work.

Thanks for the kind words.