Re: Gnus sometimes reports new messages but not showing them on IMAP server
Eric Abrahamsen <[email protected]>
| Newsgroups | gmane.emacs.gnus.general |
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Xiyue Deng <[email protected]> writes: > Xiyue Deng <[email protected]> writes: > >> Eric Abrahamsen <[email protected]> writes: >> >>> Greg Troxel <[email protected]> writes: >>> >>>> Arash Esbati <[email protected]> writes: >>>> >>>>>> I've focused on figuring out why the active number goes wrong, but in >>>>>> the interest of pragmatism it might be better just to make sure that >>>>>> nnimap always does the equivalent of "M-g" at Gnus startup. >>>>> >>>>> That might be a good compromise. >>>> >>>> Agreed. It seems obvious (said knowing that's dangerous) that on >>>> starting up the program, it's best not to rely on state that could be >>>> wrong. That's tricky, because mail programs keep messages and don't >>>> refetch them, but relying on counts of unread seems very trouble prone, >>>> vs "I have this message body and the timestamp matches so I won't fetch >>>> it." >>>> >>>> I think it would also be good to separate >>>> >>>> check for new >>>> >>>> get all the messages that are there >>>> >>>> really rescan and don't believe state >>>> >>>> in terms of being much louder about the differences. I have the >>>> impression that the assembled gnususers here are at least somewhat hazy >>>> on those boundaries. At least I am. >>> >>> I think this is an artifact of Gnus starting out as a newsreader, and >>> adding email capability later. In a NNTP context, the read/unread >>> message count is entirely private to your local machine, and something >>> you can manipulate at will. In an IMAP context, it's very much a part of >>> multi-machine state. Gnus should always defer to the remote server, >>> particularly at start up. I do wish I knew where the bug was coming >>> from, though. >>> >>> >>> >> >> This makes much sense. I'll try M-g the next time this happens. Thanks >> everyone! >> >> Also I would expect the equivalent of M-g to happen on startup so that >> there are less surprises. > > So the issue Greg described just happened again that an empty > folder/topic "Trash" from one of my outlook accounts just shown 38 > unread messages and selecting it fails with "Can't select group", while > other clients like Thunderbird shows 0 in it. I have tried "M-g" and it > doesn't help unfortunately :( > > Any more ideas for debugging? Maybe move a message into the folder, then move it back out? I'll try to get to debugging this area of Gnus in the next few weeks...