Re: Should nnatom default to offline when unplugged?

>>>>> James Thomas writes:

    > Daniel Semyonov wrote:
    >>>>>>> James Thomas writes:
    >> 
    >> > Hi all,
    >> > Right now I use something like this for
    >> > 'nnatom-read-feed-function':
    >> 
    >> > (defun my/nnatom-read-feed-function (url &rest args)
    >> >   (if gnus-plugged (nnatom--read-feed url nil)
    >> >       '(title nil nil subtitle nil nil)))
    >> 
    >> > ...for when I start with 'gnus-unplugged' for offline
    >> > reading. I was
    >> > wondering if something like this could/should be made the
    >> > default -
    >> > anyone wanting the existing behavior (why?) could let-bind
    >> > gnus-plugged
    >> > in a similar function. But it could have interactions if
    >> > agentization is
    >> > ever needed...
    >> 
    >> I honestly never use Gnus unplugged so I may be misunderstanding
    >> something, but AFAICT only agentized servers are supposed to
    >> be affected by it (according to my brief usage and the manual).

    > Well, one other place I know where the plugged status is used is in
    > queueing sent messages for later mass dispatch.

Yeah you're right, I actually found that out when I replied to you as I
was testing Gnus unplugged :)
Do you know if any other backends default to being offline when
unplugged regardless of the server being agentized?

    >> I think I'd find this behavior surprising (and difficult to change)
    >> if I
    >> encountered it as a new user, while the inconvenience of marking
    >> every
    >> nnatom server as agentized seems pretty minor.

    > Yes, but IIUC that would make the agent store a twin copy of the
    > headers, and every article; the latter unless maybe one fiddles with
    > gnus-agent-eagerly-store-articles - but right now I can't set that per
    > server.

I think a better way to solve this particular issue would be to teach
Gnus to get this information from the backend (for backends which store
their data locally).
I wonder if the same happens with nnrss, for example.

    > Anyway it was just a thought. I'm perfectly fine with my current
    > setup.

While I have your attention, can you tell me if you encountered any bugs
while using nnatom with the agent?
I'm trying to fix any issues I can find with it before Emacs 30 is
released, but as I don't use Gnus unplugged I only did some basic
testing with it.

Daniel