Re: putting stuff from custom.el into init.el

thanks very much for your explanation, I am slowly learning

Michael Heerdegen <[email protected]> writes:

> Gfp <[email protected]> writes:  > Hi, > > if I want to put e.g. > >
> '(custom-enabled-themes '(leuven)) > > into my init.el > > what would
> it look like in my init.el file?  What would I have > to change?  Note
> that what you pasted is not a complete expression since you have
> omitted the context.

Yes, you are right, I just realised this yesterday, when I was looking
at my custom.el file.

this is the start of my custom.el file: I forgot to copy the first part:

(custom-set-variables
 ;; custom-set-variables was added by Custom.
 ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful.
 ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance.
 ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right.
 '(ansi-color-faces-vector
   [default default default italic underline success warning error])
 '(ansi-color-names-vector
   ["#2e3436" "#a40000" "#4e9a06" "#c4a000" "#204a87" "#5c3566" "#729fcf"
    "#eeeeec"])
 '(apropos-sort-by-scores 'verbose)
 '(bmkp-last-as-first-bookmark-file "/home/gfp/.config/emacs/bookmarks")
 '(canlock-password "db31707d96ca42cbc9051edf483754111b0e59b8")
 '(column-number-mode t)
 '(custom-enabled-themes '(leuven))
 '(custom-safe-themes
   '("535f3728bfce79a9cfcd2a841385a63831a8a292231eed7ec8dec134af430061"))
 '(dired-hide-details-hide-information-lines nil)
 '(dired-listing-switches "-al")
 '(diredp-hide-details-initially-flag nil)
 '(display-time-mode t)
 '(electric-quote-mode t)
 '(global-dired-hide-details-mode nil)
 '(global-display-fill-column-indicator-mode nil)
 '(global-display-line-numbers-mode t)

> Can I simply copy the content of a custom.el
> file into my > init.el file and delete the content of my custom.el
> file? > > Or what would I have to do to get the settings into my
> init.el > file?

> The first thing to mention is that custom.el contains
> valid Emacs Lisp code, so in theory, you could just copy the
> expressions of the file to any other configuration file and they would
> evaluate normally.

> BUT the second important thing is: custom.el is
> automatically edited by Emacs in several different situations, for
> different purposes, and not only when using the customize interface.
> You should keep the file, and you should keep its main structure and
> layout and all parts that you don't understand, and all parts that
> don't obviously belong to some configuration you created manually.
>
> Most things that are in the `custom-set-variables' part of the custom
> file can be transferred as a respective `setopt' expression.  For
> example, if you have (custom-set-variables   ...  '(message-log-max t)
> .... )  you would add    (setopt message-log-max t)  to your
> configuration and delete the line    '(message-log-max t)  from your
> custom file.   Note that some lines may require adding a quote before
> the value.  If you for example have     '(background-mode dark)  the
> value is implicitly quoted, and the respective expression would be
> (setopt background-mode 'dark)  because 'dark' is not a variable.

>I would advise you to proceed gradually and start with simple
> things. And double check you introduce no errors.

> And you should leave things that involve custom themes untouched for now because the
> handling of custom theme settings is not trivial and you should
> definitely understand what you are doing.  The custom file machinery
> involves more than only setting plain variables.

> A final thing to mention: obviously your settings will be evaluated in a different
> order after your transformation, so even if you replace everything by
> equivalent expressions you still might run into problems when your
> code refers to any (other) settings.  Keep that in mind.    Hope that
> helps,  Michael. 

I have created a second user on my laptop
and I can use that second user to learn about Emacs.
I want to set up an Emacs from scratch
in which I want to sort out the whole thing, I like order and overview, and if possible to put almost
everything in one file.

1.
I have to install Emacs

2.
I have to install Emacs packages.
probably through „manage emacs packages“ in emacs

3.
I create a file in which I have to put my settings.
- Can it be a file with the ending „.org“?
- or does it need to have an „.el“ ending like init.el?
- or I have to create an .el file and an .org file and put something in
  the .el file that it loads the custom.el file and the .org file
  in case I want an .org file?

 How to proceed?

- Many people have a init.el file and put everything there.

- It is easy to set something up with „customize Emacs“ and it will be
  in the custom.el file
  but then I have again several files, which I wouldn´t prefer.

  So my question is how can I set up something without „customize emacs“
  „custom.el“?

  I would need to know the code!
  How can I find that code for my personal settings which are now in custom.el?
  I can´t create code myself yet.

Emacs takes very long time to learn?

thanks

Gottfried