Re: Next Gen JDEE

Yes, like ant but more declarative and less procedural.

Yes, I did think about gradle, but I think it's probably over kill for what we need.  We could abstract out project information but that complicates things and could be done in a later refactoring if gradle is desired.  Leiningen, a clojure build tool, can generate poms and in general, it seems like maven/poms have become the lowest common denominator.

Regarding the build stuff you mentioned: I have written a set of compilation tools that let you select between make, invoking a script, maven and clojure but have yet to figure out how to create a cask build to create an Emacs project.  I've looked but found no comprehensive guide.  As soon as I find one and put it on github I'll announce it here.


On Jul 15, 2015, at 1:16 PM, Stephen Leake <[email protected]> wrote:

> Michael Wall <[email protected]> writes:
> 
>> Excited to see some movement on JDEE and interested to see how it changes.
>> A few questions.
>> 
>> 1 - What are the plans for supporting Maven?
> 
> I gather Maven is a build system; similar to Ant.
> 
> There is also Gradle, now used in Android projects.
> 
> I suggest those should be separate projects; jdee2 should provide an API
> that they all need, but not try to choose between them.
> 
> If it seems appropriate, perhaps jdee2 could provide a common abstract
> front-end to all of them, with separate projects providing the
> back-ends. That would ease the transition from one tool to another.
> 
> The DVC package provides both a core API and a common front end for
> distributed CM systems; monotone, git and others.
> 
> On the other hand, I'm not sure how much support is needed beyond simple
> highlighting and indenting of the build files (xml mode for ant; maven
> and gradle mode for those). Running the build is best done from a
> Makefile.
> 
> Unless you want to get into automatically building project files the way
> Android Studio does. While that is useful when just starting to use a
> build system, it obscures how the system actually works, so it is hard
> to learn all the details.
> 
> It seems I have a very different take on these things from most
> developers today :(.
> 
> -- 
> -- Stephe
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