Re: Eyecandy time...

David Kastrup <[email protected]> Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:19:10 +0100
Newsgroups gmane.emacs.latex.preview.devel
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Miguel Frasson <[email protected]> writes:

> Dear David
>
>> Ok, I just got a mail from the EuroTeX organizers: they need the
>> handouts for the conference by the end of the week, so screenshots and
>> similar should be prepared a few days before if I want to have a chance
>> of working them into my demo.  This probably will mostly affect
>> Miguel...
>
> What I have, working, is the toolbar as it is now, with the symbol
> toolbar, which I use personally from time to time.  I can make
> screenshots of it.  Is there something more specific that you need?

Uh, Miguel, it appears that I should not post this late at night.
What I actually wanted to say is not that I want screen shots sent to
me, since I will need to resize windows to a small size before doing
them and they should match what I am doing the workshop about more or
less.

So the screenshots I should be doing myself.  However, the material
_for_ the screenshots is a different matter.  So now would be the
right time to do some last-minute fixes to icons, menus and
functionality that changes the looks of the windows.  The only
screenshots done by somebody else that would make sense would be shots
of features that I can't shoot myself reasonably easy.  That would
probably be your math toolbar as one example.

>> This is supposed to be a workshop going over several hours.
>> Fabrice has said that I'll probably have Windows boxen (oh great)
>> with the latest XEmacs installed (oh great).
>
> XEmacs in windows is the worse plataform to demonstate the toolbar,
> specially the symbols toolbar :-( The toolbar will demonstrate some
> XEmacs bugs instead.  This one can be an argument to use with
> Fabrice.  With windows, Emacs does much better in my personal
> opinion, since I get what I expect: features working as documented
> (in the XEmacs toolbar, this is *not* the case).

I'll get Emacs, the way it looks.

> XEmacs in GNU/Linux is not problem IIRC, since I adapted the icons
> to work with it (extra work) :-(

If you can manage to make a useful bug report for XEmacs/Windows (if
not done already), it might make sense reporting an example to the
XEmacs developer list.

>> I think we would not necessarily be doing the users a favor (in
>> particular considering Unicode), so I am thinking of maybe
>> persuading Fabrice that we can take a rather recent Windows CVS
>> Emacs instead.
>
> It must be a Windows CVS with image support (often not the case), like
> found in 
>   http://www.crasseux.com/emacs/
>
> It is just grab libraries for image support that are mentioned, from
> the GNUwin32 project
>   http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/
>
> At home, I have a nice experience with Emacs CVS in windows.

I am writing up an overview of Emacsen under different platforms.  The
latest issue of the Dante bulletin has had an article about CVS Emacs
on Windows, so I should be able to steal off a few facts from there.
However, I might still be tempted to pass my writeup around for
crosschecking, though it would probably be mostly in the last minute.
I am not good with planning ahead.

> Ps: I am sorry for not have too much time available.  Next week I
> defend my thesis in Leiden (Netherlands), and I am quite busy with
> moving things to Brazil (my country), organising the defense and
> goodbye party, and all my free time is spend with having dinners
> with friends.  I expect to have time to continue development when I
> arrive in Brazil.

Whoops.  That sounds like quite a rapid change of things.  I hope
everything works out well for you.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum


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