Re: XEmacs at a crossroads
Andrés Ramírez <[email protected]> Tue, 01 Dec 2015 23:59:31 -0500
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Hi Guys. Mi comments below. On Tue, 01 Dec 2015 21:36:36 -0500, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > I don't know, but I doubt it would be straightforward graphics > programming. XEmacs by default uses a collection of widgets developed > by the Lucid people, while Emacs uses the platform widgets, although I > think the Lucid framework is still in there. XEmacs generally > implemented wrapper APIs as needed at the C level, whereas GNU tends > to hook directly into the platform features. Eg, their Windows/DOS > code is far more divergent from that for POSIX platforms than our is. > It might be possible to "theme" the GTK widgets more attractively, > though. I use this GNU/Emacs version: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- GNU Emacs 25.0.50.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw scroll bars) of 2015-04-21 on wari --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- That is the Lucid version. Because of this bug: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- Warning: due to a long standing Gtk+ bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85715 Emacs might crash when run in daemon mode and the X11 connection is unexpectedly lost. Using an Emacs configured with --with-x-toolkit=lucid does not have this problem. --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- I have always thought why Lucid-x-toolkit is never updated? How the Lucid-x-toolkit got on GNU/Emacs? And because of the crossroads I have one additional question: In the last 5 years GNU/Emacs is having a pretty bright time, that means lots of tutorials, lots of packages, lot of people involved with the project, lots of dot-emacs-distributions like spacemacs, ergoemacs, prelude. --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- Why there is no a 'prelude' (dot emacs distribution) equivalent or something like that, just for downloading Xemacs, another tarball and enjoy the full Xemacs experience quickly? (even downloading automatically some mule-packages from the web) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Thanks Stephen J. for your contributions on the emacs-dev mailing list (They have been very enlightenment to me). Regards ps: that Lucid toolkit is a great piece of sw. It is still relevant on 2015. And is going to be as long as the gtk bug is not closed (not going to be closed on the near future)