Re: removing efs to get tramp working?

Michael Albinus <[email protected]> writes:

> In fact, AFAICS Kai has prepared it already. Before requiring Tramp,
> one has to set `tramp-unified-filenames'. All XEmacs download sites
> defined in `package-get-download-sites' are defaulted to the FTP
> method.

I tried to find out if unified filenames work on XEmacs, and at least
they sometimes do.  My main problem is that I don't know what these
other hooks are that tramp-efs doesn't handle, yet.  I don't know when
they are invoked.

If somebody who knows what they do could check, that would be great.

If memory serves me right, there is also another problem with unified
filenames: Something needs to be in core to fetch additional
packages.  Last time we talked about it, this was handled by EFS, but
there were also plans to remove EFS from the XEmacs core and to use
some C code (based on wget?) to fetch the packages.

In any case, Tramp can be made to easily coexist with EFS in the sense
that it is possible to have an XEmacs with EFS but without Tramp, and
then later load Tramp, and Tramp will remove the
file-name-handler-alist entries installed by EFS and add its own.
This is not an aesthetically pleasing solution, but it works.

Something that I got confused about is the opinion of the XEmacs
community: is it good to have unified filename syntax, or is this a
bad thing?  If the XEmacs community thinks that unified filenames are
bad, then no effort needs to be spent on making Tramp work in that
scenario.  But if the general consensus is that unified filenames are
good, then all problems in the implementation can be worked out, I'm
sure.

Kai