About making elisp files UTF-8
"Ben Wing" <[email protected]> Sat, 11 Dec 2004 05:19:18 -0600
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Stephen, you mentioned this as part of the 'must have for 22.0' stuff. The idea is that non-Mule should be able to compile Mule files. I agree this would be good, and we have all the mechanism in place to do UTF-8 conversion. There's a few problems, though -- [1] what do we do about translating the stuff into the internal format when we read it in? We have the problem of which charset to choose. [something that would go away of course if we just went whole hog to Utf-8 internally; but we'd still have the (potential) issue of not distinguishing the CJK characters and maybe needing to use extents to keep this info and maybe language tags; Stephen please comment on this as well] If we don't go whole-hog to internal UTF-8, then what? do we just stick language tags in? If so, in order to make sure things work in the non-Mule-compiles-Mule case we may well have to put a language tag in at the beginning of *every* transition from ASCII to non-ASCII. [2] What about character objects? Strings are no problem but a character object is listed in a .ELC file as a ? plus a series of bytes that resolves to a single Mule character. To handle this we'd have to [a] add a UTF-8 decoder to the non-Mule build [not a big deal]; and [b] extend characters in non-Mule to be big enough to hold a whole Mule character -- then we still have to deal with whatever solution we come up with for [1] [e.g. if we use language tags then (i) the non-Mule UTF-8 parser needs to recognize them and then generate them again when the character is outputted (ii) it needs to have a way of encoding the particular language in the upper bits of a character]. Comments? Sounds like it might just be better to go ahead and switch to UTF-8 internal and be done with it. Stephen [once again], what in your opinion are the big issues connected to this, including but not limited to the CJK language-preservation issue? Also, someone [maybe Stephen], what's going on in FSF land w.r.t. Unicode support in GNU Emacs? What specifically are they planning, and how far are they along? Is anyone in communication with them to try and ensure that their API's look like ours, or are they just going to be incompatible AGAIN? If not, shouldn't we be in communication with them? ben