Re: chinese & compose characters

Petr Simon <[email protected]> Mon, 28 Apr 2003 15:19:37 +0000
Newsgroups gmane.emacs.xemacs.mule
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:

>>>>>>"sjt" == Stephen J Turnbull <[email protected]> writes:
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>
>    sjt> Probably the ipa charset doesn't have a proper X font
>    sjt> registry.  Look in the dir and aliases files (probably
>    sjt> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/) to find out what the X
>    sjt> registry for IPAis, then M-x list-character-sets to find out
>    sjt> what XEmacs thinks it should be.
>
>xfonts-tipa uses registry "silipa", Emacs uses "muleipa".  I don't
>know what the difference is, if any.  If *I* were doing this, I'd use
>an ISO 8859-compatible encoding defined by 
>
>code (IPA char) = 33 + unicode (IPA char) - unicode (SMALL TURNED A)
>
>and that's possibly what Mule and SIL did.  But I wouldn't bet that
>both did, as they're both a little idiosyncratic.
>
>Get and install "xfonts-intl-phonetic" from Debian as a workaround,
>these use the muleipa encoding.
>
>As mentioned before, you can either add an X alias for the xfonts-tipa
>fonts which is identical to the X version except substituting what
>XEmacs is expecting, or you can make a new IPA charset using
>make-charset.  I don't know if the alias will do what you're expecting
>since apparently both encodings are homebrew.  I'll be working on this
>eventually, but since there's an easy workaround (install the GNU
>fonts), it's not high priority.
>
>  
>
Stephen,
thanks a lot. My problem wit ipa was really in xfonts-intl-phonetic. So 
far I am set. As for this;

>    Petr> 2. I want to input those characters I find in Edit > Mule >
>    Petr> Show character table > 94 character set > Pinyin-Zhuyin For
>    Petr> me only the latin+diacritics are important. How do I input
>    Petr> them.
>
>I don't understand what you're asking for.  There doesn't seem to be a
>pinyin-zhuyin input method though.
>  
>
As I described above in the quotation, in Show character table, under 94 
character set, a "Pinyin-Zhuyin" table, there are characters that I 
need, but I dont know what are the key bindings for them nor how to set 
this (I am a greenhorn). This is what I copy/past from xemacs. All the 
characters changed here, maybe because of encoding, I don't know!

> [00]│ 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F
> ──┼────────────────────────
> 0020│    !  "  #  $  %  &  '  (  )  *  +  ,  -  .  /
> 0030│ 0  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9

But basically these characters are (as you could see in those tables in 
xemacs):  àáāă (all these diacritics for: aeiouü) and possibly all these 
with optional dot under them (I am writing MA thesis in linguistics). I 
know that these are part of unicode and they are included in tipa. I 
haven't experiment with tipa yet, but as i understand tipa is used in 
"normal" (?) latex mode (I mean that I have to type \ and stuff, so i 
can't see the output). I don't know how to use tipa in wysiwyg mode, 
like ipa etc.
I hope I made my problem clear enough. Forgive me my inaccurate 
terminology, I am new to emacs and quite new to linux as well ;-)
Thanks a lot for your help, if you could solve this for me (and for few 
others who study chinese linguistics), I could finally start to type and 
make my professor happier....:-)
Petr