Re: VECTOR: Asteroids cheat (again)

Guys,


It would be interesting to compare the version 1 and 2 programs to 
determine what was *actually* changed between the two versions. Maybe 
that might give a clue as to whether or not an actual fix was included 
in version 2.

Just a thought.



    - Matt




Neil Bradley wrote:

>>I hate to re-post this, but I only got one reply last
>>time and it didn't solve the issue.  I have a customer
>>who REALLY wants his Asteroids to have the score cheat
>>that is mentioned on so many web sites as being in the
>>original version of the ROMs.  Unfortunately, neither
>>he nor I can make it work.  I've tried both original
>>and version 2 roms in the original hardware and even
>>tried it in MAME and could not seem to make it work
>>anywhere.  Does anyone know for sure that this cheat
>>exists and if so, how to go about doing it?  I
>>appreciate anyone's help in figuring this out.
>>    
>>
>
>Perhaps my perspective will help -
>
>I believe it's a hoax, much like the rumors of being able to drive to the
>mountains in Battlezone. I've heard of this "cheat" since 1996 when I
>wrote EMU (old vector emulator that predates MAME). With version 1 ROMs,
>and I'll repeat, with version 1 ROMs, I have tried this no less than 30
>times. I had owned an Asteroids upright, version 1, since the mid 80s and
>have also tried it countless times and had never been successful.
>
>More telling, I've found and looked at the collision detection code in
>Asteroids rev 1 and there is NOTHING that would exclude a region. There is
>no relationship to the scores or any of the text in terms of collision
>detection. They are handled by completely separate sections of the code.
>Coding up something to specifically do what is being claimed would have to
>be deliberate.
>
>I'm convinced that it's a fool's errand to look for it. Just one of those
>tales of arcade folklore.
>
>-->Neil
>
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