Re: OLOOT, asked first

QED Two situations where what a player can do after an irregularity changes once the irregularity is noted.

If I understand, you are saying that remarking on the irregularity cancels the players rights, not calling the director. So no inconsistency with 9A3. I think that's all that was needed.


On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 11:13:03 -0400, Steve Willner <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 2016-06-13 10:58 AM, Robert Frick wrote:
>> A player makes a mispull, LHO calls, and then the director is
>> called.The mispull is corrected. Can LHO change his call? Without
>  > rectification?
>
> L25A4 applies, as Robert knows.  The only further rectification is any
> consequence of LHO's call being UI to the opening side.
>
>> A player makes a mispull. The director is called. LHO then makes a
>> call. Law 9 applies?
>
> L9B1a and 9B2 apply, and everything should have stopped when the
> Director was called.  LHO's call subsequent to that was an infraction
> that will have to be rectified.  I suppose the Director would treat
> LHO's attempted call as an extraneous remark or action, UI to that side,
> AI to the other.
>
>> If LHO doesn't have the right to call now, did
>> LHO have the right to call before?
>
> The event that terminated LHO's right to call was attention being drawn
> to the mispull, nothing to do with the summoning or arrival of the Director.
>
>> You are on lead against 3NT with 6 running diamond tricks. Your
>> partner revokes, not following suit. Your best strategy is to play as
>> quickly as possible to the next trick.
>
> This was confusing, so let's make it more specific.  East, defending
> 3NT, has six diamond tricks ready to run.  South, declarer, leads a
> heart.  East wins his ace while West discards a spade, revoking.  If:
> a) the revoke is noticed and corrected, West will have a major penalty
> card.  Declarer can require a spade lead from East and, let's say, win
> the rest for making six.  Or
> b) the revoke is not noticed, East will cash his diamonds, establishing
> the revoke.  East takes seven tricks and gives one back at the end for
> down two.
>
> Sven suggested L64C might apply to scenario b), but I don't see how.
> What might apply, though, is L72B1 plus L23.  If _West_ "could have been
> aware" that failing to correct his revoke in time would be advantageous,
> the score should be adjusted to the result of a).
>
>> Same, except director is called and explains the options. You can
>> still lead to the next trick? Or do you lose that right?
>
> Here we are in scenario a) unless West denies revoking.  What's
> different is not that the Director was called, it's that someone drew
> attention to or asked about the possible revoke.  After that, L12A1
> applies: failing to admit a revoke when asked is an irregularity.
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