Re: Lost

Volker Walther <[email protected]> Sun, 21 Jan 2018 13:22:22 +0100
Newsgroups gmane.games.bridge.laws
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Just a little off-topic question: Was it common practice in ACBL-land to
impose a procedural penalty or an adjusted score when a player did not
wait the proper time after the stop card had been used? Calling during
the forced pause is a common fault in German clubs, and it is seldom
sanctioned.

When doing so the same problem arises: If West this time is thinking
until the stop-card is removed, but usually ignoring it and bidding too
early, East has the same UI. I think to get rid of the problem you have
to penalize players each and every time they are calling to early.

But most players are only aware of UI problems, if some positive
information is given, not when it is denied by a BOOT. So they will
hardly accept these penalties.

Lost, too

Volker




Am 21.01.2018 um 03:19 schrieb Robert Frick:
> I had what would have been, last year, an easy ruling. In the auction, East responded 3C, South bid 4H, and West hesitated, giving unauthorized information to her partner.
> 
> West was supposed to hesitate (in ACBLland) after a jump bid. So there was no infraction.
> 
> Except West didn't know that -- her hesitation was real, she had something to think about; if she hadn't had anything to think about, she would have passed quickly. Her partner also didn't realize, so east correctly read her partner's hesitation as showing something to think about it.
> 
> So it's a little strange to rule no infraction (she appropriately hesitated) when there was flawless communication of UI.
> 
> The ruling was manageable last year. North puts down a stop card, and everyone's on the right page. If North doesn't put down the stop card, that's the original infraction and I'm comfortable not ruling against EW.
> 
> But there are no stop cards anymore. The ACBL eliminated them. So, EW managed to communicate information with flawless adherence to proper procedure. (So it's not EI according to the rules. Right? Can we call it UI when partner unexpectedly bids in proper tempo? I have ruled that way before, maybe that's the solution here.)
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