Re: Toronto 2017 case R6

On 02/23/2018 07:45 AM, Herman De Wael wrote:
> I consider his mention as "I will be bidding at my turn" not as a bid, 
> but as an extraneous remark.
> 

If that was what he'd actually said, I couldn't agree more.

However, since David said the Laws didn't provide for this particular
infraction, I was just suggesting something which there's at least a
logical basis for applying *given* that North fully specified a
particular bid, albeit with extra baggage.

Brian.


> brian wrote:
>> On 02/22/2018 09:26 PM, David Grabiner wrote:
>>> The Director is within his rights to adjust the score.  North
>>> committed an infraction, and since the Laws do not provide a specific
>>> redress for this infraction, the Director should make a ruling which
>>> restores equity.
>>>
>>
>> I understand that the fact that this is at the seven level makes
>> things a little unusual, but under more normal circumstances, would
>> there not be some logic to treating North's announcement as a bid out
>> of rotation?
>>
>>
>> Brian.
>>
>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 8:56 PM, Richard Hills <[email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>
>>>      The Appeals Committee applied a Disciplinary Penalty of 4 Victory
>>>      Points to North's side. But the question I am interested in is
>>>      whether or not the Director exceeded their powers in adjusting the
>>>      score.
>>>
>>>      Best wishes,
>>>
>>>      Richard Hills
>>>
>>>      Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>      > On 23 Feb 2018, at 3:10 AM, Bill Kemp <[email protected]
>>>      <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>      >
>>>      > No consideration of a disciplinary penalty for disrupting the
>>>      auction?
>>>      > Bill
>>>      >
>>>      > Sent from my iPad
>>>      >
>>>      >> On 22 Feb 2018, at 13:50, Richard Hills <[email protected]
>>>      <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>      >>
>>>      >> In an auction which was competitive up to the 7-level, East has
>>>      just bid 7D. Before South has a chance to generate UI by breaking
>>>      tempo, North forestalled South's break-in-tempo by announcing
>>>      that, "I am bidding 7S no matter what you do." Now relieved of any
>>>      burden of responsibility, South is able to double 7D in tempo. As
>>>      advertised, North converts to 7S, which is cold for 13 tricks, +2210.
>>>      >>
>>>      >> The Director ruled:
>>>      >>
>>>      >> A) Without North's extraneous remark, South would have broken
>>>      tempo before doubling 7D.
>>>      >> B) Defending 7Dx was a logical alternative to bidding 7S.
>>>      >> C) The hypothetical break-in-tempo demonstrably suggested
>>>      removing to 7S.
>>>      >> D) Hence the score was adjusted to 7Dx -800.
>>>      >>
>>>      >> The Appeals Committee ruled:
>>>      >>
>>>      >> Y) Without South actually breaking tempo, North does not
>>>      actually hold any Unauthorized Information, hence North can choose
>>>      any call.
>>>      >> Z) Thus the table score of 7S +2210 was restored.
>>>      >>
>>>      >> Best wishes,
>>>      >>
>>>      >> Richard Hills
>>>      >>
>>>      >> Sent from my iPad
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