Re: [BLML] Wanted: Alternate wording for Law 16Bb1(a)
Adam Wildavsky <[email protected]> Mon, 6 May 2019 13:43:31 -0400
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--===============1233088054== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000003258f005883ba4d2" --0000000000003258f005883ba4d2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I never circled back on this. I hope that the current version of 16B1(a) is an improvement over the previous one. It now reads: A player may not choose a call or play that is demonstrably suggested over another by unauthorized information if the other call or play is a logical alternative. On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 10:07 AM Eric Landau <[email protected]> wrote: > On 02/09/17 6:10 PM, Adam Wildavsky wrote: > > Thanks, Eric. I agree completely. May I quote you on BridgeWinners? > > Sure. > > > On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 8:29 AM, Eric Landau <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > "Logical" here modifies "alternative". Whether or not the call > > actually > > chosen is "logical" doesn't matter; it is only the "alternatives" > > to it > > that are constrained. It's there to limit the adjudicator's > > choices of > > presumed alternative actions. If you have UI that partner would > > prefer > > you to pass his 3S bid than raise it to game, you also have UI that > he > > would prefer a pass to a 7NT bid, but if you gain by passing we > adjust > > your score to the result in 4S (a logical alternative to pass) rather > > than in 7NT (not). Note that "gain by passing" is objective; the > > "logicalness" of the pass doesn't matter > > > > -- > > Eric Landau > Silver Spring MD > New York NY > > _______________________________________________ > Blml mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.rtflb.org/mailman/listinfo/blml > --0000000000003258f005883ba4d2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I never circled back on this. I hope= that the current version of 16B1(a)=C2=A0is an improvement over the previo= us one. It now reads:</div><div><br></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0= px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px">A player may not choose a call or play= that is demonstrably suggested over another by=C2=A0unauthorized informati= on if the other call or play is a logical alternative.</blockquote></div><b= r><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, = Feb 10, 2017 at 10:07 AM Eric Landau <<a href=3D"mailto:ehaa.bridge@veri= zon.net">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class= =3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg= b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 02/09/17 6:10 PM, Adam Wildavsky wrote:= <br> <br> Thanks, Eric. I agree completely. May I quote you on BridgeWinners?<br> <br> Sure.<br> <br> > On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 8:29 AM, Eric Landau <<a href=3D"mailto:ehaa= [email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a> <br> > <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank= ">[email protected]</a>>> wrote:<br> ><br> ><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0"Logical" here modifies "alternative= ".=C2=A0 Whether or not the call<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0actually<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0chosen is "logical" doesn't matter; i= t is only the "alternatives"<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0to it<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0that are constrained.=C2=A0 It's there to limit= the adjudicator's<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0choices of<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0presumed alternative actions.=C2=A0 If you have UI = that partner would<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0prefer<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0you to pass his 3S bid than raise it to game, you a= lso have UI that he<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0would prefer a pass to a 7NT bid, but if you gain b= y passing we adjust<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0your score to the result in 4S (a logical alternati= ve to pass) rather<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0than in 7NT (not).=C2=A0 Note that "gain by pa= ssing" is objective; the<br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0"logicalness" of the pass doesn't mat= ter<br> ><br> <br> -- <br> <br> Eric Landau<br> Silver Spring MD<br> New York NY<br> <br> _______________________________________________<br> Blml mailing list<br> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a><br> <a href=3D"http://lists.rtflb.org/mailman/listinfo/blml" rel=3D"noreferrer"= target=3D"_blank">http://lists.rtflb.org/mailman/listinfo/blml</a><br> </blockquote></div></div> --0000000000003258f005883ba4d2-- --===============1233088054== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Blml mailing list [email protected] http://lists.rtflb.org/mailman/listinfo/blml --===============1233088054==--