Re: Low pass filter on quaternions

"90% of this, 10% of that" is exactly a first-order IIR filter implemented
as a leaky integrator.

However, it's not true that "quick changes" have to be killed by an IIR. If
you view this as traditional signal analysis with four channels, and you go
higher-order (or multiple second-order, which is generally more stable) you
can do things like combining a highpass filter (I suppose to to weed out
"wave") with a wide notch filter (to weed out noise, but still allow really
strong transients such as presumably "wrist snap" movements).

Sincerely,

jw


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On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Tom Plunket <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> > The problem is that Quaternions are not quite linear enough. Running a
> > naive filter on the axis component when the rotation is close to identity
> > (and the axis component is small) may cause excessive jitter.
>
> Since the rotation is close to zero, though, it doesn't really matter if
> your axis flips all around.  The net result is still one of very little
> rotation.
>
> > I'd also be interested in hearing from anyone who has done this in anger!
>
> Years ago, before I had any idea what quaternions meant, I just did
> IIR-style filtering on them.  You know, "add 10% of this frame's value to
> 90% of the current frame's value, and use that as the new current value."
> Despite the fact that this is horrifying to many purists, it actually
> worked out well for the application I was using it in.  Doing this with
> controller input may lead to an undesirable amount of lag, though.
>
> When this question was posed, I started wondering how they do it on mouse
> drivers, since there is no apparent lag between me moving the mouse and
> the cursor moving on the screen.  Maybe the solution there is that they
> run at a much higher sample rate?  Maybe the filtering is done in
> hardware?
>
> Regardless of the solution for the filtered quaternions, I would think
> that lag would be preferable to overshoot.  The IIR filters certainly meet
> that criteria.  :)
>
>
> -tom!
>
> --
>
>

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