Re: A new ELF OpenGo bot and analysis of historical Go games

Hiroshi Yamashita <[email protected]> Mon, 18 Feb 2019 07:24:26 +0900
Newsgroups gmane.games.devel.go
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Hi Ingo,

> * How strong is the new ELF bot in comparison with Leela-Zero?

from CGOS BayesElo, new ELF(ELFv2) is about +100 stronger than Leela-Zero.

                     Rating      Network size(Resnet layers x filters)
LZ_05db_ELFv2_p800  3554        20x256
LZ_d13c_ELFv1_p800  3530        20x224   second release ELF
LZ_62b541_ELF_p800  3500        20x224   first release ELF
LZ_204_05d1_p400    3433        40x256   latest(2019-02-13) LZ

p800 means 800 playout/move.
p400 means 800 playout/move.
Leela Zero's playout is half. Because its net size is double.
http://www.yss-aya.com/cgos/19x19/bayes.html

Thanks,
Hiroshi Yamashita

On 2019/02/17 1:29, "Ingo Althöfer" wrote:
> Hi Remi,
> thanks you for the link.
> 
> A few questions (to all who know something):
> 
> * How strong is the new ELF bot in comparison with Leela-Zero?
> 
> * How were komi values taken into account when analysing old go games with help of ELF?
> 
> * How often does ELF propose moves played by AlphaGo (for instance in the games
> with Fan Hui, Lee Sedol, and in the sixty games from December 2017)?
> 
> * Does ELF understand that the strength of AlphaGo increased from October 2015 to May 2017?
> 
> Cheers, Ingo.
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